From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: wkt@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au (Warren Toomey)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:51:45 +1100 (EST)
Subject: Yet Another Apout Version
Message-ID: <199901031151.WAA26388@henry.cs.adfa.oz.au>

Hmm,
	The tarball of Apout that I put up for ftp had a file missing,
and a serious bug which caused 2.11BSD ls -l to go into an infinite loop.
I've removed this version and placed a new version of Apout in:

	ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/pub/PDP-11/Sims/Apout/

Things are looking good. With a small bit of manual help, I was
able to run make in 2.11BSD /usr/src/bin, which rebuilds all of
the binaries in /bin.

I've even (nearly) been able to build the GENERIC 2.11BSD kernel
in /sys/GENERIC, but I get:

# make
   ....
ld -X -i -o unix scb.o  mch_backup.o mch_click.o mch_copy.o .....
sys_process.o  syscalls.o ufs_mount.o -Z hk.o init_main.o kern_prot.o
tty_pty.o quota_kern.o quota_subr.o  quota_ufs.o vm_swp.o vm_swap.o
vm_proc.o -Z ht.o tm.o ts.o -Z tmscp.o tmscpdump.o  -Z rl.o
mch_fpsim.o ingreslock.o ufs_disksubr.o -Z rx.o kern_sysctl.o
vm_sched.o vm_text.o -Z kern_pdp.o kern_xxx.o ufs_syscalls2.o mem.o
ufs_subr.o rk.o sys_pipe.o  kern_sig2.o toy.o subr_log.o -Z  -Z
-Z   -Z  -Z  -Z  -Y  vers.o -lkern param.o
Undefined:
_proc
_file
_text
*** Exit 1

Stop.
# ls -l unix
-rw-------  1 root       195480 Jan  3 03:41 unix

Steven, any ideas as to the problem? I had to do two operations manually
(using 32-bit native tools):

sh ../conf/newvers.sh
/bin/ed - param.s < ../conf/:comm-to-bss

Cheers all,
	Warren

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From: Michael Sokolov <msokolov@harrier.Uznet.NET>
Date: 3 Jan 1999   17:16:23 GMT
To: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au
Subject: Time machine
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Dear PUPS/TUHS members,

Have you ever wished to have a time machine? Have you ever wished to travel
back to 1988, to the time when 4.3BSD-Tahoe was the latest release and the SCCS
deltas corresponding to it were the most recent deltas? Well, at least I do.

Although unfortunately real time travel is still limited to the X-Files, I have
come up with a pretty good approximation, a time machine program. This program
turns the Universe clock backwards on a given SCCS file, pruning it down to a
given delta, specified either as an SID or as a delta serial number. The bulk
of the work is done by the SCCS rmdel command. This command, however, can only
delete one delta at a time and still leaves an audit trail in the delta table.
My package consists of a shell script and two C programs that compensate these
deficiencies. The result is that the SCCS file becomes byte-for-byte identical
to the one that existed at the time you have chosen, just like with a real time
machine!

I include this package below as a uuencoded gzipped tarball. See the README
file inside.

Sincerely,
Michael Sokolov
Cellular phone: 216-217-2579
ARPA Internet SMTP mail: msokolov at harrier.Uznet.NET

Enclosure: uuencoded tmachine.tar.gz:

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From: Mirian Crzig Lennox <mirian@xensei.com>
To: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au
Subject: Ancient SunOS source
References: <199812161520.KAA28340 at seedlab1.cropsci.ncsu.edu>
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Last month, there was some discussion about getting Sun to release the
sources to old SunOS 4.1 under the Ancient UNIX source licence.  I'm
curious as to what progress has been made on that.  I'm
enthusiastically looking forward to hopefully being able to run
SunOS-4.1.3 with full source on an old Sun 3/80.

-- 
Mirian Crzig Lennox                                Systems Anarchist
          "There's a New World Order coming every minute.
                      Make mine extra cheese."