From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:33:34 +0930 Subject: "Unix-based mallet" ??? Message-ID: <19990806123334.K5126@freebie.lemis.com> Does anybody here have an idea what this could be? Greg ----- Forwarded message from Chris Baird ----- > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:52:28 +1000 (EST) > To: netbsd-users at netbsd.org > Reply-to: abuse at brushtail.apana.org.au > Precedence: list > Delivered-To: netbsd-users at netbsd.org > > While looking over userland source, calendar(1)'s calendar.computer > mentions: > > 08/14 First Unix-based mallet created, 1954 > > Could someone please explain the joke. :) > > -- > Chris Baird,, ----- End forwarded message ----- -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog at lemis.com for PGP public key Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24693 for pups-liszt; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:22:43 +1000 (EST) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (henry.cs.adfa.edu.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24689 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:22:27 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wkt at localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) id NAA04460; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:20:44 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) From: Warren Toomey Message-Id: <199908060320.NAA04460 at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Subject: Re: "Unix-based mallet" ??? In-Reply-To: <19990806123334.K5126 at freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Aug 6, 1999 12:33:34 pm" To: grog at lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:20:44 +1000 (EST) Cc: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (Unix Heritage Society) Reply-To: wkt at cs.adfa.edu.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk In article by Greg Lehey: > Does anybody here have an idea what this could be? > > Greg > > ----- Forwarded message from Chris Baird ----- > > While looking over userland source, calendar(1)'s calendar.computer > > mentions: > > 08/14 First Unix-based mallet created, 1954 > > Could someone please explain the joke. :) I can't find it in V6/V7/2.11, which version of Unix and calendar(1)? Cheers, Warren Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24768 for pups-liszt; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:34:59 +1000 (EST) Received: from begemot.org (negara.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.248.112]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24764 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:34:51 +1000 (EST) Received: (from joerg at localhost) by begemot.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA63389; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:34:43 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from joerg) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:34:43 +1200 From: "Joerg B. Micheel" To: wkt at cs.adfa.edu.au Cc: Greg Lehey , Unix Heritage Society Subject: Re: "Unix-based mallet" ??? Message-ID: <19990806153443.A63379 at begemot.org> References: <19990806123334.K5126 at freebie.lemis.com> <199908060320.NAA04460 at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <199908060320.NAA04460 at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au>; from Warren Toomey on Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 01:20:44PM +1000 Organization: Begemot Computer Associates Operating-System: ... powered by FreeBSD Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 01:20:44PM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote: > In article by Greg Lehey: > > Does anybody here have an idea what this could be? > > > > Greg > > > > ----- Forwarded message from Chris Baird ----- > > > While looking over userland source, calendar(1)'s calendar.computer > > > mentions: > > > 08/14 First Unix-based mallet created, 1954 > > > Could someone please explain the joke. :) > > I can't find it in V6/V7/2.11, which version of Unix and calendar(1)? At least on FreeBSD it is in /usr/share/calendar/calendar.computer. Cannot check other versions at the moment. Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: Begemot Computer Associates Phone: +64 7 8562148 6 Kakanui Avenue, Hillcrest Fax: +64 7 8562148 Hamilton, New Zealand Pager: +64 868 38222 Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24816 for pups-liszt; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:38:36 +1000 (EST) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (henry.cs.adfa.edu.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24809 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:38:30 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wkt at localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) id NAA04506; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:38:22 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) From: Warren Toomey Message-Id: <199908060338.NAA04506 at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Subject: Re: "Unix-based mallet" ??? In-Reply-To: <19990806153443.A63379 at begemot.org> from "Joerg B. Micheel" at "Aug 6, 1999 3:34:43 pm" To: joerg at begemot.org (Joerg B. Micheel) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:38:22 +1000 (EST) Cc: wkt at cs.adfa.edu.au, grog at lemis.com, pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Reply-To: wkt at cs.adfa.edu.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk In article by Joerg B. Micheel: > > > > 08/14 First Unix-based mallet created, 1954 > > I can't find it in V6/V7/2.11, which version of Unix and calendar(1)? > At least on FreeBSD it is in /usr/share/calendar/calendar.computer. > Cannot check other versions at the moment. > Joerg It's also in 4.4-Lite, Iguess we'll have to backtrack to find when it was added. Warren Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24962 for pups-liszt; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:51:38 +1000 (EST) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (henry.cs.adfa.edu.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24955 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:51:31 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wkt at localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) id NAA04564 for pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:51:30 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) From: Warren Toomey Message-Id: <199908060351.NAA04564 at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Subject: Unix mallet .... To: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (Unix Heritage Society) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:51:30 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: wkt at cs.adfa.edu.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk According to the SCCS records on Kirk McKusick's 4th CD, /usr/src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.computer was: date and time created 89/11/27 14:10:01 by bostic Mind you, this was obviously the first time it was checked into SCCS. I'll keep looking. We could ask Keith what he know about it. Warren Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25320 for pups-liszt; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:00:57 +1000 (EST) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (henry.cs.adfa.edu.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25316 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:00:50 +1000 (EST) Received: (from wkt at localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) id PAA40293; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:00:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) From: Warren Toomey Message-Id: <199908060500.PAA40293 at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> Subject: Re: Unix mallet .... In-Reply-To: <19990806134045.O5126 at freebie.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Aug 6, 1999 1:40:45 pm" To: grog at lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:00:46 +1000 (EST) Cc: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (Unix Heritage Society) Reply-To: wkt at cs.adfa.edu.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk On Friday, 6 August 1999 at 13:51:30 +1000, Warren Toomey wrote: > According to the SCCS records on Kirk McKusick's 4th CD, > /usr/src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.computer was: > date and time created 89/11/27 14:10:01 by bostic > Mind you, this was obviously the first time it was checked into SCCS. > I'll keep looking. We could ask Keith what he knows about it. Well, the earliest calendar.computer files I can find, apart from the SCCS record, are: Distributions/4bsd/43reno.vax/src.tar, calendar.computer dated 1989/11/28 Distributions/4bsd/net2/net2.tar, calendar.computer dated 1989/11/28 Distributions/4bsd/43reno.vax/usr.tar, calendar.computer dated 1990/07/29 [from the PUPS Archive] so the finger of suspicion does point at Keith Bostic. In article by Greg Lehey: > Sounds reasonable. You want to [ask Keith]? Yep, I'll fire off some email now. Cheers all, Warren Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25515 for pups-liszt; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:48:34 +1000 (EST) Received: from smtp.sw.oz.au (firewall-user at smtp.sw.oz.au [203.31.96.1]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25511 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:48:27 +1000 (EST) Received: (from peterc at localhost) by smtp.sw.oz.au (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id PAA16635; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:48:25 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:48:25 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199908060548.PAA16635 at smtp.sw.oz.au> From: Peter Chubb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: grog at lemis.com.au Cc: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (Unix Heritage Society) Subject: Re: Unix mallet .... In-Reply-To: <199908060351.NAA04564 at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> References: <199908060351.NAA04564 at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v04.023. Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Warren" == Warren Toomey writes: Warren> According to the SCCS records on Kirk McKusick's 4th CD, Warren> /usr/src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.computer was: Warren> date and time created 89/11/27 14:10:01 by bostic A Mallet is an articulated steam locomotive (named after Anatole Mallet, a Frenchman). 1954 would have been in the midst of their heydays. Often used for hauling logs. Now, how did UNIX get involved???? 1954 predates UNIX as we know it, so it's probably something else or a spoof.... Peter C