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In article by Martin Crehan:
> I found a web site:
> http://communication.ucsd.edu/A-News/
> that has Usenet postings dating from May 1981 to May 1982. the groups:
> FA.unix-wizards
> NET.bugs
> NET.bugs.2bsd
> NET.bugs.4bsd
> NET.bugs.v7
> NET.sources
> NET.tools
> NET.unix
> NET.unix-wizards
> contain postings with information on the early days of Unix.
>
> Have you heard of any other places that have old Usenet articles.
> Martin Crehan
Does anybody know of other Usenet archives? There are some archives
of comp.sources.* around. I've got much of the Minix and BSD newsgroups
archived since 1992.
I've also got 3 9-track tapes sitting here. One's labelled `News'; the
others have labels:
1600bpi tar
OLDNEWS ARCHIVE (mod)
25 feb 87
1600bpi tar
OLDNEWS ARCHIVE (aus,comp,mod,net,news)
25 feb 87
I might try reading them in the next few days.
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In article by Martin Crehan:
> Warren
>
> Keep up the good work. Have you heard of any VAX-11 emulators that we
> could use to run some of the versions of unix for the VAX?
> Martin Crehan
No, I don't know of any free ones. I think DEC have one for the Alpha,
but it's commercial. Does anybody know of a VAX emulator? I wonder if
Bob Supnik would be working on one.
Cheers,
Warren
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>> Keep up the good work. Have you heard of any VAX-11 emulators that we
>> could use to run some of the versions of unix for the VAX?
>No, I don't know of any free ones. I think DEC have one for the Alpha,
>but it's commercial.
What DEC has for the Alpha to let you run VAX code is VEST, which is
a translator, not a pure emulator.
> Does anybody know of a VAX emulator?
Well, during 1977-1978 VAX instruction set development was done
on an 11/70 running an emulator. Does that count? :-)
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Subject: Unix 5th and 6th Edition Filesystems for Linux
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I mentioned this to Warren a few months back, but I don't think I
sent it out to the mailing list, so excuse me if I am repeating myself.
Anyhow, I have hacked together a version of a Unix 5th (and 6th)
Edition filesystem for Linux. It is read only, and was written for
Linux 2.0 on an x86 and so will require a little work to install on
other systems and newer kernels, but it is fun to be able to mount
old disk images. Now only if I had the time to get it read-write ...
[root at ebb disks]# ls -l
total 2447
-rw------- 1 norris users 2494464 Feb 16 1999 ted_v6root
[root at ebb disks]# mount -t u5e -o loop ted_v6root /mnt/u5e
[root at ebb disks]# cd /mnt/u5e
[root at ebb u5e]# ls -l
total 102
drwxrwxr-x 2 adm sys 1104 May 14 1975 bin
drwxrwxr-x 2 adm sys 1824 Aug 15 1975 dev
drwxrwxr-x 2 adm sys 496 Aug 15 1975 etc
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 29932 Aug 15 1975 hpunix
drwxrwxr-x 2 adm sys 464 May 14 1975 lib
drwxrwxr-x 2 adm sys 32 May 14 1975 mnt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 29932 Aug 15 1975 rkunix
drwxrwxrwt 2 adm sys 272 Aug 15 1975 tmp
drwxrwxr-x 15 adm sys 240 Aug 15 1975 u
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 28684 Aug 15 1975 unix
drwxrwxr-x 15 adm sys 240 Aug 15 1975 usr
The source is sitting at
http://www.maths.unsw.EDU.AU/~norris/software.html#u5e
Untar the file into /usr/src/linux-2.0.XX/fs/u5e-0.2, make it, and stick
the module into /lib/modules/2.0.XX/fs. Then mount your disk image with
mount -t u5e -o loop <image> <mount point>
Cheers,
P.S. It is interesting to see that the GNU magic file is so up to date;
[root at ebb disks]# cd /mnt/u5e/lib
[root at ebb u5e]# ls -la
total 228
drwxrwxr-x 2 adm sys 464 May 14 1975 .
drwxrwxr-x 10 adm sys 256 Aug 15 1975 ..
-rwxrwxr-x 1 adm sys 5064 Jul 18 1975 as2
-rwxrwxr-x 1 adm sys 15352 Jul 18 1975 c0
-rwxrwxr-x 1 adm sys 21814 Jul 18 1975 c1
-rwxrwxr-x 1 adm sys 8188 Jul 18 1975 c2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 112 Jul 19 1975 crt0.o
-rwxrwxr-x 1 adm sys 17424 Jul 18 1975 fc0
-rwxrwxr-x 1 adm sys 23822 Jul 18 1975 fc1
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 136 Jul 19 1975 fcrt0.o
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 13810 Jul 18 1975 filib.a
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 340 Jul 18 1975 fr0.o
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 14118 Jul 18 1975 liba.a
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 22042 Jul 19 1975 libc.a
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 13958 Jul 18 1975 libf.a
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 27622 Jul 18 1975 libp.a
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 9982 Jul 19 1975 libs.a
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 3530 Jul 19 1975 liby.a
-rwxrwxr-x 1 adm sys 3144 Jul 18 1975 lpr
-rw-rw-r-- 1 adm sys 436 Jul 19 1975 mcrt0.o
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root bin 8794 Jul 19 1975 tmgb
[root at ebb u5e]# file *
as2: PDP-11 pure executable
c0: PDP-11 pure executable
c1: PDP-11 pure executable
c2: PDP-11 pure executable
crt0.o: PDP-11 executable not stripped
fc0: PDP-11 pure executable
fc1: PDP-11 pure executable
fcrt0.o: PDP-11 executable not stripped
filib.a: very old PDP-11 archive
fr0.o: PDP-11 executable not stripped
liba.a: very old PDP-11 archive
libc.a: very old PDP-11 archive
libf.a: very old PDP-11 archive
libp.a: very old PDP-11 archive
libs.a: very old PDP-11 archive
liby.a: very old PDP-11 archive
lpr: PDP-11 executable
mcrt0.o: PDP-11 executable not stripped
tmgb: very old PDP-11 archive
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On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 10:59:52AM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote:
> I've also got 3 9-track tapes sitting here. One's labelled `News'; the
> others have labels:
>
> 1600bpi tar
> OLDNEWS ARCHIVE (aus,comp,mod,net,news)
> 25 feb 87
>
> I might try reading them in the next few days.
If you do manage to read them, could you make INFO-VAX messages (if there
are any, of course) available? I'd like to merge them with other INFO-VAX
archives, for completeness. (I run a WebGlimpse-based searchable archive
of classiccmp and INFO-VAX, URL below.)
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Visited your web page and looked at your page for SunOS and Solaris
I can add more history:
I believe the first public release of SunOS was 0.9 so I will start there
SunOS Aprox Date Comments
_____ __________ _____________________________
0.9 1983 First relase for the oldest Sun1 CPU boards
As I recall the Sun1 CPU boards were 68000 boards
(Maybe 68010?) with 256Kb ram on board.
This relase was a quick and dirty port of AT&T's
version of UNIX, not BSD. No window system.
I ran the very last tech support workstation running
SunOS 0.9, a machine called onefive (the name as I
recall referred to the hardware.
1.0 1984 (1983?) First relase for the new Sun2 CPU boards.
68010 CPU and no memory on the mother board
Introduced Sun's SunTools window system.
1.1 1984-03-12 From SunOS 1.1 Installation Guide
First stable SunOS release (or so I was told
as we upgraded systems to 1.1)
Required Rev N PROMS on the mother board
2.0 1985-04-15 From "System Administration for the Sun Workstation"
Revision history: "First Customer release of this
System Administration Manual"
Support for Sun2/50 and 2/160 VME based workstations.
First general release of NFS and NIS
2.3 1986-03-21 From SunOS 2.3 Upgrade tape
(Photocopy of Proof tape from SQA)
3.0 1986-02-17 From "Writing Device Drivers for the Sun Workstation"
Supports new Sun 3 68020 architecture.
4.0 1988-05-09 From "SunOS 4.0 Change Notes"
"Key improvements incorporated by SunOS 4.0 include:
* New system architecture that promotes system
resource sharing and portability across
different hardware platforms.
* Share library facility that reduces program size
and swap space requirements.
* Resizable swap area for diskless clients
* Secure networking through the use of RPC
(Remote Procedure Call).
* NFS (Network File System) replaces ND (Network Disk)
for diskless client systems. The Effect of this is
to make system administration easier and more
flexible.
* All of the $.3 BSD network changes are incorporated
including TCP (Transmission Control Protocol) and
IP (Internet Protocol) performance improvements
and subnetting.
* Automount facility that automatically mounts
accessible remote filesystems as needed."
Supports new Sun 4 SPARC architecture.
4.0.3 1989-04-24 From "Documentation Erata and Changes Pages
For SunOS Release 4.0.3"
4.0.3c 1989-06-06 From "SPARCstation-1 SunOS 4.0.3 Sun-4c Release Notes"
4.1 1990-03-27 From SunOS 4.1 "Installing The SunOS"
Hope this helps to fill out the timeline.
RLH
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