* booting archived Sys III and Ultrix 3.x images
@ 1999-10-20 13:28 PUPS mailing list
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Has anyone successfully booted either the System III
(...Distributions/usdl/SysIII/) or Ultrix (...Distritutions/dec/Ultrix*)
tape images? I don't have a real PDP-11 any more, however both the
Begemot P11 and the Supnik emulators produce the following on a
generated boot disk:
#0=unixhptm
ka6 = 1535
aps = 141774
pc = 1476 ps = 30010
trap type 0
ka6 = 1535
aps = 141666
pc = 113444 ps = 30300
trap type 0
panic: trap
The Ultrix images both fail to actually boot from tape, as they
quit after reading the first boot block. Thus I am unable get as
far as being able to generate a disk image for booting.
I'm somewhat confident that my tape image booting and system generation
procedures used with the Supnik emulator are working properly, since I
successfully generate disk systems from both the V7 (Bostic) and
the 2.11BSD boot-tape images.
Any info and interest of others gleefully appreciated :)
-skots
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* booting archived Sys III and Ultrix 3.x images
@ 1999-10-21 2:59 Steven M. Schultz
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From: Steven M. Schultz @ 1999-10-21 2:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
Howdy -
> From: pups at mrynet.com (PUPS mailing list)
>
> Has anyone successfully booted either the System III
> (...Distributions/usdl/SysIII/) or Ultrix (...Distritutions/dec/Ultrix*)
> tape images? I don't have a real PDP-11 any more, however both the
I don't know what the problem with Ultrix is but I suspect
your trouble with System-III is similar to what I wasted a couple
days on eons ago
Spent a fruitless couple days trying to get Sys-III going on a 11/44
only to have it dawn on me that Sys-III didn't have *any* UMR support
except for the DH-11 - thus an 11/70 with MASSBUS devices was the
only thing Sys-III would run on.
As far as I know no effort was put into Sys-III to deal with 22
bit machines that didn't have a MASSBUS (a la 11/70). PERHAPS
that is what is biting you? Feels likely. I know that no effort
was put in to supporting UMRs on 22bit systems such as the 11/44.
The Supnik and Begemot emulators offer up a ~kdj-11 (11/53, 73, ...)
and not an 11/70 so it could be that Sys-III is trying to do
something 11/70'ish that KDJ-11 based systems don't offer.
Steven Schultz
sms at moe.2bsd.com
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Hi ,
Im interested in a PDP-11 assembler that has the MACRO-11 syntax,
I got a book, "Introduction to Computer Systems using the PDP-11 and
Pascal" by McEwans, Thought it would be nice to have the assembler to
check out. I hope the assembler is a load and go assembler cum simulator.
I want to check out some PDP-11 assembly on my linux machine.
Does anyone remember a program called "apout" I think that might work for
cross development (learning).
Bye
P.Basker
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In article by P.BASKER:
> Hi ,
> Im interested in a PDP-11 assembler that has the MACRO-11 syntax,
> I got a book, "Introduction to Computer Systems using the PDP-11 and
> Pascal" by McEwans, Thought it would be nice to have the assembler to
> check out. I hope the assembler is a load and go assembler cum simulator.
> I want to check out some PDP-11 assembly on my linux machine.
>
> Does anyone remember a program called "apout" I think that might work for
> cross development (learning).
> Bye
Yes, I wrote Apout. It runs user-mode programs from V5, V6, V7, 2.9BSD
and 2.11BSD. So if you could find an assembler for any of these systems
which met your requirements, and produced .o files which could be linked
using the normal Unix linker, you'd be okay.
However, I haven't heard of a Unix assembler with MACRO-11 syntax, and
Apout only runs PDP-11 Unix binaries. So you probably would be better
off with a full emulator running a DEC OS with MACRO-11.
Cheers,
Warren
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As PUPS mailing list wrote ...
> Has anyone successfully booted either the System III
> (...Distributions/usdl/SysIII/) or Ultrix (...Distritutions/dec/Ultrix*)
> tape images? I don't have a real PDP-11 any more, however both the
Ultrix-11 V3.1 works just fine on my 11/83. I supplied the binary images
to PUPS from the .5" reel tape ;-) So, yes it can work. My PDP is now
running 2.11BSD btw.
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From: msokolov@meson.jpsystems.com (Michael Sokolov)
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Subject: Program to read unknown tapes
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Hi everyone,
I have already posted this program to the PUPS list back in December 1998, but
people are asking for it again, and also there are people on the Quasijarus
list and not on the PUPS list who want it, so I'm posting it again, to both
lists.
This program can read a tape on a UNIX box without the user having to know
anything about its format. This program automatically determines how many files
are on the tape, what is the record size for each, and whether there are any
oddities such as partial records. It saves each tape file into a separate disk
file and produces a log of everything found on the tape.
It's a simple C program and should compile and run on virtually any UNIX or
UNIX-like system. The original version was written by one guy I met on another
list once and then it was significantly enhanced by me. I include it below as
a uuencoded 'compress -s'ed tarball.
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Enclosure: uuencoded cptape.tar.Z:
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