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From: toby@telegraphics.com.au (Toby Thain)
Subject: [TUHS] Array index history
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 21:19:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1b557724-cbd5-8602-3b75-5e68df9e7a3f@telegraphics.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbe38df3-6276-fee6-a26c-67a7ead8411d@dunnington.plus.com>

On 2017-06-08 8:25 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> On 09/06/2017 00:16, Ron Natalie wrote:
>>
>>> FORTRAN, yes. BASIC (which dialect might we be talking about?) normally
>> actually start with 0. However, BASIC is weird, in that the DIM
>> statement is
>> actually specifying the highest usable index, and not the size of the
>> array.
>>
>> Eh?  Not in any BASIC I ever used.   They all started at 1.   Can't vouch
>> for the later Microsoft "visual" variants but the original 1970's era
>> BASIC
>> started with 1.
>> DIM X(10) gave you ten elements from 1...10
>
> Well, my experience matches Johnny's.  I used many derivatives of
> MicroSoft BASIC - PET, Apple INTBASIC, Applesoft, Exidy Sorcerer, and
> others - and they all start at 0.  AFAIR HP BASIC did so as well.  The
> original 1960s Dartmouth BASIC (for which I have a copy of the manual)
> also started at 0 (cf. page 38); indeed if you didn't explicitly DIM an
> array, you got eleven elements indexed 0...10.
>

I wrote a lot of BBC BASIC. DIM(9) allocates ten elements, 0..9, 
according to this:

http://www.riscos.com/support/developers/bbcbasic/part2/arrays.html

--Toby


  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-09  1:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2017-06-08 18:20 ` David
2017-06-08 18:55   ` Ron Natalie
2017-06-09 21:21   ` Steve Johnson
2017-06-09 21:52     ` Arthur Krewat
2017-06-08 22:29 ` Johnny Billquist
2017-06-08 23:16   ` Ron Natalie
2017-06-08 23:41     ` Steve Nickolas
2017-06-09 15:12       ` Random832
2017-06-09 16:30         ` Ron Natalie
2017-06-09  0:21     ` Johnny Billquist
2017-06-09  0:25     ` Pete Turnbull
2017-06-09  1:19       ` Toby Thain [this message]
2017-06-09  2:14         ` Pete Turnbull
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2017-06-08 22:28 ` Johnny Billquist
2017-06-08  9:16 Richard Tobin
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2017-06-08  2:27 Doug McIlroy
2017-06-08 12:49 ` William Cheswick
2017-06-08 12:56   ` Michael Kjörling
2017-06-08 13:45     ` Dan Cross
2017-06-08 13:57       ` Ron Natalie
2017-06-10 21:08     ` Nemo
2017-06-08 15:04   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-06-08 15:09     ` William Pechter
2017-06-08 16:53     ` Steve Nickolas
2017-06-08 20:17     ` Larry McVoy
2017-06-09  0:03     ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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2017-06-07 12:56             ` shawn wilson
2017-06-07 13:16               ` Ron Natalie
2017-06-07 13:20               ` arnold
2017-06-07 13:50                 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-06-07 14:02                   ` arnold
2017-06-08 11:28                     ` Christian Neukirchen
2017-06-08 14:56                       ` shawn wilson
2017-06-07 14:58                   ` Tony Finch
2017-06-07 23:57                     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-06-07 16:31                 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-06-08  0:47                 ` Bakul Shah
2017-06-07 17:59               ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-06-07 18:29               ` Clem Cole
2017-06-07 18:46                 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-06-07 19:03                   ` Ron Natalie
2017-06-07 19:15                     ` Arthur Krewat
2017-06-07 19:49                       ` Ron Natalie
2017-06-08  1:58                       ` ARJANEN Loïc Jean David
2017-06-08 13:49                       ` Random832
2017-06-08 13:55                         ` Arthur Krewat
2017-06-08 18:41                       ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-06-08  2:45                     ` Robert Swierczek
2017-06-08  4:05                       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-06-08  6:19                       ` Peter Jeremy
2017-06-08  7:02                         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-06-08 13:53                         ` Ron Natalie

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