From: Grant Taylor via TUHS <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 17:57:43 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1d46d78d-d5c2-993d-1a66-1732e7bf5f29@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c43a0f17-276e-d023-4cf2-d42f072b05f6@mhorton.net>
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2163 bytes --]
On 6/23/19 5:10 PM, Mary Ann Horton Gmail wrote:
> Hunting around through my ancient stuff today, I ran across a 5.25"
> floppy drive labeled as having old Usenet maps. These may have
> historical interest.
Intriguing.
> First off, I don't recognize the handwriting on the disk. It's not mine.
> Does anyone recognize it? (pic attached)
>
> I dug out my AT&T 6300 (XT clone) from the garage and booted it up. The
> floppy reads just fine. It has files with .MAP extension, which are
> ASCII Usenet maps from 1980 to 1984, and some .BBM files which are ASCII
> Usenet backbone maps up to 1987.
>
> There is also a file whose extension is .GRF from 1983 which claims to
> be a graphical Usenet map. Does anyone have any idea what GRF is or
> what this map might be? I recall Brian Reid having a plotter-based
> Usenet geographic map in 84 or 85.
Hum.
> I'd like to copy these files off for posterity. They read on DOS just
> fine. Is there a current best practice for copying off files? I would
> have guessed I'd need a to use the serial port, but my old PC has DOS
> 2.11 (not much serial copying software on it) and I don't have anything
> live with a serial port anymore. And it might not help with the GRF file.
I wonder if you could get away with something as simple as a null modem
cable and the following commands:
Source:
copy a:\file COM1
Destination:
copy COM1 c:\file
Does the source machine have a hard drive?
Do you have a blank (sacrificial) floppy disk?
Can you copy the files anywhere so that they are in more than one place?
Do you have a printer that you could create a (hexadecimal) printout?
Do you have a machine that can accept a USB-to-Serial adapter?
What about something like a Raspberry Pi? It has a serial port (though
it needs a level shifter).
> I took some photos of the screen with the earliest maps (the ones that
> fit on one screen.) So it's an option to type things in, at least for
> the early ASCII ones.
I'd be interested in seeing them. Do you have a place that you can
upload them to?
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
[-- Attachment #2: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature --]
[-- Type: application/pkcs7-signature, Size: 4008 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-23 23:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-23 23:10 Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-23 23:52 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24 0:02 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24 0:35 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-24 0:53 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24 0:56 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-24 1:12 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24 1:31 ` William Pechter
2019-06-24 1:51 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24 1:40 ` Bakul Shah
2019-06-24 3:20 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-06-24 0:50 ` Arthur Krewat
2019-06-24 21:07 ` Michael Kjörling
2019-06-24 21:30 ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-24 21:59 ` Gregg Levine
2019-06-23 23:57 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS [this message]
2019-06-24 0:40 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-06-24 1:37 ` William Pechter
2019-06-24 3:17 ` Jason Stevens
2019-06-24 1:57 ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-24 2:09 ` pechter
2019-06-24 0:03 ` Theodore Ts'o
2019-06-24 0:19 ` Seth Morabito
2019-06-24 0:33 ` Larry McVoy
2019-06-24 1:58 ` Steve Nickolas
2019-06-25 3:54 ` Jonathan Gevaryahu
2019-06-25 11:21 ` ckeck
2019-07-09 16:28 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 16:53 ` KatolaZ
2019-07-09 17:12 ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 17:25 ` Seth Morabito
2019-07-09 17:34 ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 19:19 ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 19:41 ` Richard Salz
2019-07-09 20:09 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 20:58 ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 20:54 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 21:30 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:35 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:37 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 21:46 ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 22:02 ` Henry Bent
2019-07-09 23:23 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-10 0:06 ` Dan Cross
2019-07-10 0:26 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-10 0:38 ` Dan Cross
2019-07-10 0:49 ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-10 0:57 ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10 1:26 ` [TUHS] V0 B Compiler Warren Toomey
2019-07-10 1:29 ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10 1:32 ` [TUHS] Plot 10 Sources Clem Cole
2019-07-10 2:51 ` Charles Anthony
2019-07-10 3:00 ` Charles Anthony
2019-07-10 3:01 ` Clem Cole
2019-07-10 12:51 ` Nelson H. F. Beebe
2019-07-10 14:34 ` Clem cole
2019-07-10 1:02 ` [TUHS] Floppy to modern files for Usenet maps Arthur Krewat
2019-07-10 1:19 ` Larry McVoy
2019-07-10 1:34 ` Dave Horsfall
2019-07-10 0:28 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 22:01 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 22:44 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-09 23:14 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-10 0:24 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-07-10 1:13 ` Mary Ann Horton Gmail
2019-07-09 17:33 ` Clem Cole
2019-07-15 3:21 ` [TUHS] Historical " Mary Ann Horton Gmail
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=1d46d78d-d5c2-993d-1a66-1732e7bf5f29@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net \
--to=tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org \
--cc=gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).