From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5231 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2022 12:54:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Sep 2022 12:54:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0954B409E4; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 22:53:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.24]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77B2240614 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 22:53:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43B832001FF for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 08:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap44 ([10.202.2.94]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 07 Sep 2022 08:53:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zick.io; h=cc :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1662555228; x= 1662641628; bh=3yDIglT7qpiL7KidJ2HVwhJXwcWItfkt8Y7jXDFy1no=; b=S MMEeq9BgwmRMW9fmSv6C70mA7wzlaOgaRkMSxRZTXjImBBIopu7iyh479r68dngm LBhOS6PYKvsLvPH5DPmous6UjayhJWTuQtr0PTJdTdqO+9RUHVInHJv6+phjUbDr MbkNN+4srZLN6fvtfIz12cJvm/CYp9Bae8e/HqBmj9AoqDq0UTJ+H0oc3+0SzauZ Ozl0rSBw2xMt74pU1756rGr0A2F+Yscd5F6HWM/8CJ6IaGHUQ2E1gC8ZeCyjhC25 x5Fx5jhGEr3Nva08BkTQIf7B6NEFowESI0ZeO50CQLwsb/dmOtXrolgJzIL+CEYX crA462EAETIu2jmyUw5Vg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender :subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t=1662555228; x=1662641628; bh=3 yDIglT7qpiL7KidJ2HVwhJXwcWItfkt8Y7jXDFy1no=; b=yv6DG5UScwmSncZf6 abEqfpH4dcDMh0i/1XXMzEZQiU9+Z+B2tDGu32XvCirgMP/K17guXR2PitWcngQ7 d42qgAZpSZKV3qBjm1aJpHw9FqgtSeLd9rguThH/o1c6yymr0ptPcMI9XRo1Zure SC60SQcRTU9jT1zHf31wE65L7KMFpWsvEod/cT54GKpDsAqm+sAKvGLgNl8fJUsp FBfIrQT9dk2V3Xly7Amr6VnEeLDDqofHu9E2FoE0tL00TMD80uypvQOoIXzw3gfn ds6qsdoqNcejzuYGbewNOtsTGtxSQh3bEwvJLKiR0iTG75Pb1TBTtWo314X3G6tU HrYOw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrfedttddgheeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefofgggkfgjfhffhffvufgtgfesth hqredtreerjeenucfhrhhomhepfdeurhhirghnucgkihgtkhdfuceosghrihgrnhesiihi tghkrdhioheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepledvuddvkeejhefgtedugfdtfeejhfduvd evkeevvdejgeeujeeggeekheeugefgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghr rghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepsghrihgrnhesiihitghkrdhioh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i7b384345:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0023136A0073; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 08:53:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.7.0-alpha0-927-gf4c98c8499-fm-20220826.002-gf4c98c84 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <1d79de35-daeb-4a4f-aed3-954f8df3a135@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <453CCF20-3A01-4655-A956-149EDC08FA36@canb.auug.org.au> References: <453CCF20-3A01-4655-A956-149EDC08FA36@canb.auug.org.au> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2022 07:53:27 -0500 From: "Brian Zick" To: tuhs@tuhs.org Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: LZHZZMXOLVYJL3QA4AK5OAD2OQAUOCII X-Message-ID-Hash: LZHZZMXOLVYJL3QA4AK5OAD2OQAUOCII X-MailFrom: brian@zick.io X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] STDIN/OUT vs APIs [was: How Unix changed Software] List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, Sep 5, 2022, at 6:48 PM, steve jenkin wrote: > While the Unix =E2=80=9CSoftware Tools=E2=80=9D approach - mediated by= the STDOUT /=20 > STDIN interface, not API=E2=80=99s - was new & radical, and for many c= lasses of=20 > problems, provided a definitive solution, > I=E2=80=99d not include it in a list of =E2=80=9COpen Source=E2=80=9D = features. I am very curious to hear more about the implications and practical bene= fits of this from folks that have thoroughly explored it. In my experien= ce I=E2=80=99ve mainly used APIs, and I=E2=80=99m having trouble imagini= ng the other approach other than for text-processing. B