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[204.210.204.220]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g21sm8267611qtb.70.2022.02.01.14.04.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Feb 2022 14:04:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1e78ebf7-476c-9a3c-76b2-2eb0a5d17dd6@case.edu> Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 17:04:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.4.1 Content-Language: en-US To: Will Senn , TUHS main list References: From: Chet Ramey Organization: ITS, Case Western Reserve University In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Good-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A742F8F.61F9A1B2.00B3, actions=tag X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A742F1D.61F9AE64.007C,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2016-11-06 16:00:04, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 80567651b92bd750ff90c58e6798d42c X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=good-1, source=Fixed, refid=n/a, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Status: score=7/90, host=mpv1-2015.case.edu X-Junkmail-PrAS-Raw: score=7/90, refid=2.7.2:2022.2.1.214215:17:7.944, ip=, rules=__YOUTUBE_RCVD, DKIM_SIGNATURE, __X_GOOGLE_DKIM_SIGNATURE, __X_GM_MESSAGE_STATE, __X_GOOGLE_SMTP_SOURCE, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __MIME_VERSION, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_CC_HDR, __SUBJ_REPLY, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_TO_X2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __HAS_REFERENCES, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, FROM_EDU_TLD, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC1, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC2, __HEADER_ORDER_FROM, __RCPT_DOMAIN_NOT_TO, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __DKIM_ALIGNS_1, __DKIM_ALIGNS_2, __FUR_HEADER, __ANY_URI, __URI_MAILTO, __URI_WITH_PATH, __URI_ENDS_IN_SLASH, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __COURIER_PHRASE, __URI_IN_BODY, __URI_NOT_IMG, [TRUNCATED], so=2010-03-03 19:42:08, dmn=2016-08-03-0138 Subject: Re: [TUHS] BSD 4.1, 4.1x, Quasijarus, and 4.3x X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On 2/1/22 4:34 PM, Will Senn wrote: > 2. Sokolov implies that the CSRG mission started going off the rails with > the 4.3/4.3BSD-Tahoe and it all went pear shaped with the 4.3-Reno release, > and that Quasijarus puts the mission back on track, is that so? He seems to be saying that everything post-VAX was where the project lost its way. My recollection is that the switch from VAX to Tahoe was mostly driven by funding, hardware donations, and the Berkeley departments' and computing center's desire to move to the VAX 8000 series, which IIRC the CSRG was not prepared to support. (I'm a little fuzzy on the timing of that last piece.) -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/