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From: markus schnalke <meillo@marmaro.de>
To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Tech Sq elevator (Was: screen editors)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 18:21:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1iqgvK-2KJ-00@marmaro.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfrPvQKEhb2dP1_iM72pZU_Gw7dPMZLy4GMKU-1Q5iEY7w@mail.gmail.com>

Hoi.

[2020-01-12 09:56] Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
>
> It should have been something like  (list-length (command-list-fn)) but I'll
> bet that ? was bound to a complicated function that just displayed the results
> and didn't properly abstract out the UI (printing) from the data collection
> (getting a list), which is what made it so hard. I've had so many gnu emacs
> experiences like this over the years, but to the community's credit, there's
> fewer and fewer as time goes by.
> 
> ObUnix: This shows the power of having the right abstractions and being
> disciplined to code to those ideal abstractions any time there might be
> reuse...

True words.

These concepts (what you call abstractions) is no optional geek
pleasure but the most important information for everyone using the
system or language. It's important to teach them, make them explicit,
deal with them, substract points in exams for correct solutions that
have bad style, keep the libraries and books on a high level, ...

This is one of the lesser regarded aspects of what Unix did really
well.


meillo

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-12 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-12 13:43 Doug McIlroy
2020-01-12 16:56 ` Warner Losh
2020-01-12 17:21   ` markus schnalke [this message]
2020-01-12 20:25   ` Kevin Bowling
2020-01-12 20:32     ` Larry McVoy
2020-01-12 20:34     ` Jon Steinhart
2020-01-12 20:40       ` Kevin Bowling
2020-01-12 20:44         ` Jon Steinhart
2020-01-12 21:03           ` Kevin Bowling
2020-01-12 21:37             ` [TUHS] Tech Sq elevator (Was: screen editors) [ really I think efficiency now ] Jon Steinhart
     [not found]               ` <CAEoi9W4fXLaTRM1mv4wnVbifCFBEw_iKL9cds8ds-FBRTwM-=g@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CAEoi9W6LedGGjWPO=ZgZzVdGLqs8drhqcWkvA_DfKTOtMDgegQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-01-13 23:46                   ` Dan Cross
2020-01-14 23:17                     ` Kevin Bowling
2020-01-18 15:45                     ` Michael Parson
2020-01-18 18:45                       ` Jon Steinhart
2020-01-18 18:59                         ` Michael Parson
2020-01-18 20:31                           ` Adam Thornton
2020-01-21 21:57                       ` Derek Fawcus
2020-01-22  7:21                         ` arnold
2020-01-22  7:29                           ` Tyler Adams
2020-01-12 21:41           ` [TUHS] Tech Sq elevator (Was: screen editors) Bakul Shah
2020-01-12 21:47             ` Jon Steinhart
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-01-12 22:25 Doug McIlroy
2020-01-12 22:40 ` Kevin Bowling
2020-01-10 17:27 Noel Chiappa
2020-01-10 20:18 ` Angelo Papenhoff

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