From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [45.79.103.53]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id a59b8dda for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 08:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C13A79C039; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 18:02:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89109BFE2; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 18:02:27 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C37F59BFE2; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 18:02:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: from marmaro.de (marmaro.de [176.28.23.198]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA819BFF2 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 18:02:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by marmaro.de (masqmail 0.3.6-dev, from userid 1000) id 1irdd1-81R-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2020 09:02:15 +0100 To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org In-reply-to: <202001150454.00F4sF9H013965@cuzuco.com> References: <202001150454.00F4sF9H013965@cuzuco.com> Comments: In-reply-to Brian Walden message dated "Tue, 14 Jan 2020 23:54:15 -0500." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <30840.1579075335.1@marmaro.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 09:02:15 +0100 From: markus schnalke Message-ID: <1irdd1-81R-00@marmaro.de> Subject: Re: [TUHS] A portrait of cut(1) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Hoi, thanks a lot for sharing these yet missing pieces of information and the stories. Very interesting. meillo [2020-01-14 23:54] Brian Walden > Random832 writes: > >markus schnalke writes: > >> [2015-11-09 08:58] Doug McIlroy > >>> things like "cut" and "paste", whose exact provenance > >>> I can't recall. > >> > >> Thanks for reminding me that I wanted to share my portrait of > >> cut(1) with you. (I sent some questions to this list, a few > >> months ago, remember?) Now, here it is: > >> > >> http://marmaro.de/docs/freiesmagazin/cut/cut.en.pdf > > > >Did you happen to find out what GWRL stands for, in the the comments at > >the top of early versions of cut.c and paste.c? > > > >/* cut : cut and paste columns of a table (projection of a relation) (GW= RL) */ > >/* Release 1.5; handles single backspaces as produced by nroff */ > >/* paste: concatenate corresponding lines of each file in parallel. Rele= ase 1.4 (GWRL) */ > >/* (-s option: serial concatenation like old (127's) paste comman= d */ > > > >For that matter, what's the "old (127's) paste command" it refers to? > = > I know this thread is almost 5 years old, I came across it searching for > something else But as no one could answer these questions back then, I ca= n. > = > GWRL stands for Gottfried W. R. Luderer, the author of cut(1) and paste(1= ), > probably around 1978. Those came either from PWB or USG, as he worked wi= th, > or for, Berkley Tague. Thus they made their way into AT&T commercial UNIX= , > first into System III and the into System V, and that's why they are miss= ing > from early BSD releases as they didn't get into Research UNIX until the > 8th Edition. Also "127" was the internal department number for the Compu= ter > Science Research group at Bell Labs where UNIX originated > = > Dr. Luderer co-authored this paper in the orginal 1978 BSTJ on UNIX -- > https://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Documentation/Papers/BSTJ/bstj57-6-2201.pdf > = > I knew Dr. Luderer and he was even kind enough to arrange for me stay wit= h his > relatives for a few days in Braunschweig, West Germany (correct county na= me for > the time) on my first trip to Europe many decades ago. But haven't had co= ntact nor > even thought of him forever until I saw his initials. I also briefly work= ed for Berk > when he was the department head for 45263 in Whippany Bell Labs before mo= ving to > Murray Hill. > = > And doing a quick search for him, it looks like he wrote and autobiograhy= , which I > am now going to have to purchase > http://www.lulu.com/shop/gottfried-luderer/go-west-young-german/paperback= /product-23385772.html?ppn=3D1 > = > -Brian > =