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* Installing an OS on my little friendly VAX-11.
@ 2000-05-24 19:02 Jeff Johnson
  2000-05-25  0:23 ` Warren Toomey
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From: Jeff Johnson @ 2000-05-24 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)



Hey guys.  I've got a VAXstation 2000 with 12MB of RAM, and two RD54 drives,
one of which is developing bad sectors (the secondary).  I've got the
eight bitplane graphics card and no terminal available.  I'd really love to
get a copy of Ultrix 4.2 installed on this machine, but from what I can
tell it isn't available.  I also don't have a TK50 or any external storage,
so it looks like I'll be netbooting.

The machine currently has OpenVMS 7.2 on it which I can re-license and get
running if it would help for an install.  I've had almost no success with
NetBSD either.  The only kernel that would boot was a 1.3 snapshot release.
All of the 1.4 kernels crap out immediately upon booting, and nobodys seems
to be able to help me.

Also, if anyone has a source for additional expansion for this machine, I'd
be grateful.  Thanks very much for your time.  I really want to get this
machine up and running again.

--
Jeffrey H. Johnson - jeff at websitefactory.net - System Administration - TrN
Barnet Worldwide Enterprises - The Website Factory - www.websitefactory.net



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* Installing an OS on my little friendly VAX-11.
  2000-05-24 19:02 Installing an OS on my little friendly VAX-11 Jeff Johnson
@ 2000-05-25  0:23 ` Warren Toomey
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From: Warren Toomey @ 2000-05-25  0:23 UTC (permalink / raw)


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In article by Jeff Johnson:
> 
> Hey guys.  I've got a VAXstation 2000 with 12MB of RAM, and two RD54 drives,
> eight bitplane graphics card and no terminal available.  I'd really love to
> get a copy of Ultrix 4.2 installed on this machine.

I'd recommend you look into the Quasijarus project at
http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/Quasijarus/

and join their mailing list by sending a request to Michael Sokolov:
msokolov at ivan.Harhan.ORG

Cheers,
	Warren

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Jeff Johnson <jeff+pups at websitefactory.net> wrote:

> I've got a VAXstation 2000 with 12MB of RAM, and two RD54 drives,
> one of which is developing bad sectors (the secondary).  I've got the
> eight bitplane graphics card and no terminal available.

Two RD54s? At least one of them must be external then, as there's only room for
one full-height device in the VS2K box itself. I'm going to assume that you
have the standard DEC configuration with one RD54 internal and an expansion
adapter (pizza box) at the bottom with the 2nd external RD54 connected to it.
Hey, except for the lack of TK50Z, you've got pretty much the maximum
configuration from DEC for VS2K: maximum memory, maximum number of disks of
top-of-the-line type, expansion adapter, and top-of-the-line graphics card!

On your expansion adapter, right next to the connector for the external RD54,
you should see a 50-lead Amphenol (aka Centronics) SCSI connector. It is indeed
real SCSI, but the boot ROM, VMS, and Ultrix only support one SCSI device on
it, the TK50Z.

> I also don't have a TK50 or any external storage,

Note that if you can get hold of a TK50Z (a box just like your external RD54,
but with a TK50 drive and a TK50-to-SCSI adapter inside), you can readily plug
it into the connector I just described. I don't think a TK50Z would be that
expensive. Here in Dallas, TX, USA I get bare TK50 drives for $75 apiece and
TK50 drive + TQK50 controller (for Q-bus) pairs for $100 apiece, and I don't
think a TK50Z would be much more expensive.

> so it looks like I'll be netbooting.

Sorry, can't help you with that, I and netbooting have never been able to
successfully coexist in the same machine room at the same time.

> The machine currently has OpenVMS 7.2 on it which I can re-license and get
> running if it would help for an install.

If you have VMS running on one disk, you can use it to install Ultrix on the
other. Talk to me directly for the instructions.

--
Michael Sokolov		Harhan Engineering Laboratory
Public Service Agent	International Free Computing Task Force
			International Engineering and Science Task Force
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			DALLAS TX 75204-5852 USA

Phone: +1-214-824-7693 (Harhan Eng Lab office)
E-mail: msokolov at ivan.Harhan.ORG (ARPA TCP/SMTP) (UUCP coming soon)

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Warren Toomey <wkt at cs.adfa.edu.au> wrote:

> I'd recommend you look into the Quasijarus project at
> http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/Quasijarus/
>
> and join their mailing list by sending a request to Michael Sokolov:
> msokolov at ivan.Harhan.ORG

Thanks, Warren, for helping me out with awareness-raising! I have to disappoint
Jeff a little bit, though, that 4.3BSD-Quasijarus support for BabyVAXen is
still a while away, but trust me, we will get there some day! But my project
pages and mailing list are definitely a tremendous resource.

--
Michael Sokolov		Harhan Engineering Laboratory
Public Service Agent	International Free Computing Task Force
			International Engineering and Science Task Force
			615 N GOOD LATIMER EXPY STE #4
			DALLAS TX 75204-5852 USA

Phone: +1-214-824-7693 (Harhan Eng Lab office)
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On 25 May, Michael Sokolov wrote:

> I have to disappoint
> Jeff a little bit, though, that 4.3BSD-Quasijarus support for BabyVAXen is
> still a while away, but trust me, we will get there some day! 
NetBSD runs on the VS2000. A friend is running a Web-server on a VS2000
(http://wmad93.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de/). But the MFM disk support
is broken since 1.4 due to a DMA code cleanup. Netbooting works and you
can connect any generic SCSI disk to the tape port. This works but is
very slow because there is only PIO SCSI on the VS2000... 
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         Jochen

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Subject: PDP-11 MMU docs?
From: lars brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org>
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Is there any PDP-11 MMU documentation available?

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On 25 May 2000, lars brinkhoff wrote:

> Is there any PDP-11 MMU documentation available?

Don't remember seeing any. What do you want to know?

	Johnny

Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                  ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt at update.uu.se           ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol




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