From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: sms@moe.2bsd.com (Steven M. Schultz) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pups] Networking With 2.11 BSD and Begemot Emulator Message-ID: <200010051642.JAA03467@moe.2bsd.com> Hi - > From: Greg Lehey > > revision 1.1 > > date: 2000/07/20 17:01:10; author: nsayer; state: Exp; > > Add the tap driver. > > Ah well, I still haven't used it. Neither have I ;) I thought (for 30 seconds or less) about porting it to BSD/OS - it's not that big and didn't appear to be overly tricky. Only reason I knew about 'tap' was that P11 has support for it and a pointer where to fetch 'tap' from. > > The reason for publishing an ARP entry on the hosting system is... > > I did that with a static route entry. Publishing an ARP entry has the benefit of not needing to wander around to all the systems on the LAN (I've several) and add a static route. In my case I don't own/run the local router so I couldn't add a static route if I wanted to. Having the host system 'arp ... pub' works was the simplest way to deal with the situation. > As I say, it's not that simple. I used it without trouble for years. Well, i'd have to see it working or have it explained in a bit more detail. Having been thru the DEQNA driver and IP stack in 2.11 I can't see how an 11 will communicate with anything over an ethernet if it can't perform the IP<->ethernet address mapping. > Recently something broke, and I suspect it trashed my root file > system, and I haven't had time to go back and fix it. Since others Ouch! On the 11 side? Or on the hosting system's side? Steven Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA53881 for pups-liszt; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:12:11 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (henry.cs.adfa.edu.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA53877 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:12:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: (from wkt at localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA66088 for pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:13:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) Received: from mail1.rdc1.il.home.com (mail1.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.76]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA53111 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:42:43 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from cube1 at home.com) Received: from ddjay.home.com ([24.10.213.208]) by mail1.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001006024207.JBOT7359.mail1.rdc1.il.home.com at ddjay.home.com> for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2000 19:42:07 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20001005212349.06086580 at cirithi> X-Sender: cube1 at cirithi X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 21:25:17 -0500 To: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (UNIX Heritage Society Digest) From: Jay Jaeger Subject: [pups] Re: UNIX Heritage Society Digest V1 #137 In-Reply-To: <200009241945.GAA72267 at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk I had to replace the RS 423 drives on my PDP-11/24 and in the connected VT-100 terminal after a problem on a PC clobbered the 11/24 console ports which in turn clobbered the VT-100 some time ago. --- Jay R. Jaeger The Computer Collection cube1 at home.com visit http://members.home.net/thecomputercollection Received: (from major at localhost) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA53897 for pups-liszt; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:14:08 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: from henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (henry.cs.adfa.edu.au [131.236.21.158]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA53893 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:14:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from wkt at henry.cs.adfa.edu.au) Received: (from wkt at localhost) by henry.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA66113 for pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:15:42 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from wkt) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (root at wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA53333 for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:35:53 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from grog at wantadilla.lemis.com) Received: (from grog at localhost) by wantadilla.lemis.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) id e963Z3N21875; Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:05:03 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:05:03 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Steven M. Schultz" Cc: pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Subject: Re: [pups] Networking With 2.11 BSD and Begemot Emulator Message-ID: <20001006130503.A21828 at wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200010051642.JAA03467 at moe.2bsd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200010051642.JAA03467 at moe.2bsd.com>; from sms at moe.2bsd.com on Thu, Oct 05, 2000 at 09:42:05AM -0700 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-pups at minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au Precedence: bulk On Thursday, 5 October 2000 at 9:42:05 -0700, Steven M. Schultz wrote: >>> The reason for publishing an ARP entry on the hosting system is... >> I did that with a static route entry. > > Publishing an ARP entry has the benefit of not needing to wander > around to all the systems on the LAN (I've several) and add a static > route. In my case I don't own/run the local router so I couldn't > add a static route if I wanted to. Having the host system > 'arp ... pub' works was the simplest way to deal with the situation. > >> As I say, it's not that simple. I used it without trouble for years. > > Well, i'd have to see it working or have it explained in a bit more > detail. Having been thru the DEQNA driver and IP stack in 2.11 I > can't see how an 11 will communicate with anything over an ethernet > if it can't perform the IP<->ethernet address mapping. I don't know the details either, unfortunately. I really need to find some time to get the thing running again. >> Recently something broke, and I suspect it trashed my root file >> system, and I haven't had time to go back and fix it. Since others > > Ouch! On the 11 side? Or on the hosting system's side? On the 11 side. I'm not sure what happened, but it looks like it. It's not a big deal, since I have backups somewhere. Greg -- Finger grog at lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers