* [pups] Ultrix bootable disk images in UNIX Archive
@ 2001-02-21 2:50 Warren Toomey
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From: Warren Toomey @ 2001-02-21 2:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi all,
Bill Gunshannon has sent me his Ultrix-3.1 disk images, and they
are now in the UNIX Archive at PDP-11/Boot_Images/Ultrix-3.1. I've knocked
up a short README from his e-mails too.
Cheers,
Warren
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Subject: Re: [pups] VTServer 2.0 - Note from the Field
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In article by Ian King:
[ some strange Microsoft e-mail format, Ian can you send
plain ASCII next time, ta! ]
> A couple of notes about this:
> * With a real PDP-11, I found it necessary to use the stty command
> for no hardware handshaking. On Linux 2.2 and using COM1, it's:
>
> stty 9600 cs8 clocal -crtscts < /dev/ttyS0
>
> * I think .vtrc may have changed from the earlier version; I tried
> to just hack a copy of the old one and found the format had changed.
> The first line is the shell command to set the device parameters (as set
> forth above), the second line is the device itself (e.g. /dev/ttyS0),
> and the following lines are the "tape" records. Warren, may I suggest
> adding some text to the readme about this? I had to figure it out....
Yep, that's documented in
http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/Vtserver/vtserver/vtreadme.txt as follows:
The file .vtrc is the server's configuration file. Lines beginning with
hashes are ignored. The first (non-hashed) gives a shell command to set the
correct speed and parity of the serial line. The second line names the
serial device. Remaining lines name the fictitious tape's records, and
should be tinyboot, copy, and the name of your disk image.
> * It's not extremely clear from the readme, but start VTServer
> first, then the PDP-11 code. It wasn't that hard to key in with the
> programmer's panel. :-)
Thanks, can you suggest changes to the above document which would help
to clarify this?
Also, Fred van Kempen has added commands to send down the bootstrap
code if the PDP-11 has ODT. I'll add this to the server once I get the
code from Fred.
> Please don't get me wrong, I'm grateful that you wrote this and not me.
> :-) But you did ask for feedback, and I'm sending this to the PUPS list
> with the hope it will help anyone else with a similar situation.
Thanks Ian, yes I'm always happy for feedback. You might also try the
two Ultrix RL02 images that Bill Gunshannon also donated to the archive,
as he booted these on an 11/23 ok.
Cheers,
Warren
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I know it is probably simple, but my experience is with the real
thing and this is the first time I have tried to do anything but
play with one of the emulators.
How do you create new blank disk images for the Supnik emulator??
In particular, I am trying to create some RM03's to give me more
room to work with Ultrix-11. I am trying to make some install
kits on different media so that more people will be able to get
it, not only on emulators, but also on real machines, where it
is much more fun. :-)
I have tried using the empty files the emulator creates. I have
tried dd'ing /dev/zero into a file to the size of the disk. I
have tried using format from xxdp. Nothing seems to work. Is there
a specific procedure to follow??
Any help greatly appreciated.
bill
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Subject: RE: [pups] VTServer 2.0 - Note from the Field
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Further good news: it boots! I have a V6 image from Ken Wellsch
(thanks, Ken) booting on my 11/34. Now I have lots to figure out....
-- Ian
PS: Warren, I was mailing from the Web access client, so it was probably
HTML - sorry.
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From: Warren Toomey [mailto:wkt@henry.cs.adfa.edu.au]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:59 PM
To: Ian King
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Subject: Re: [pups] VTServer 2.0 - Note from the Field
In article by Ian King:
[ some strange Microsoft e-mail format, Ian can you send
plain ASCII next time, ta! ]
> A couple of notes about this:
> * With a real PDP-11, I found it necessary to use the stty command
> for no hardware handshaking. On Linux 2.2 and using COM1, it's:
>
> stty 9600 cs8 clocal -crtscts < /dev/ttyS0
>
> * I think .vtrc may have changed from the earlier version; I tried
> to just hack a copy of the old one and found the format had changed.
> The first line is the shell command to set the device parameters (as
set
> forth above), the second line is the device itself (e.g. /dev/ttyS0),
> and the following lines are the "tape" records. Warren, may I suggest
> adding some text to the readme about this? I had to figure it out....
Yep, that's documented in
http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/Vtserver/vtserver/vtreadme.txt as follows:
The file .vtrc is the server's configuration file. Lines beginning
with
hashes are ignored. The first (non-hashed) gives a shell command to
set the
correct speed and parity of the serial line. The second line names
the
serial device. Remaining lines name the fictitious tape's records,
and
should be tinyboot, copy, and the name of your disk image.
> * It's not extremely clear from the readme, but start VTServer
> first, then the PDP-11 code. It wasn't that hard to key in with the
> programmer's panel. :-)
Thanks, can you suggest changes to the above document which would help
to clarify this?
Also, Fred van Kempen has added commands to send down the bootstrap
code if the PDP-11 has ODT. I'll add this to the server once I get the
code from Fred.
> Please don't get me wrong, I'm grateful that you wrote this and not
me.
> :-) But you did ask for feedback, and I'm sending this to the PUPS
list
> with the hope it will help anyone else with a similar situation.
Thanks Ian, yes I'm always happy for feedback. You might also try the
two Ultrix RL02 images that Bill Gunshannon also donated to the archive,
as he booted these on an 11/23 ok.
Cheers,
Warren
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Ian King wrote:
>
> Further good news: it boots! I have a V6 image from Ken Wellsch
> (thanks, Ken) booting on my 11/34. Now I have lots to figure out....
> -- Ian
>
> PS: Warren, I was mailing from the Web access client, so it was probably
> HTML - sorry.
I likely come across as an arrogant SOB - I hardly deserve credit for
the image. My part was one of deciphering what came off an old 800 BPI
mag tape a decade ago and caring about preserving this bit of the past.
Folks you don't know like Ian! Allen who handed me the tape from the
Computer Graphics Lab at U of Waterloo (and the CGL folks for hanging
onto the tape in their library) to folks like Alan Bowler who kindly
pulled a raw image of the tape off on our old Honeywell system because
all our UNIX systems did not support 800 BPI on their tape drives any
more...
Those are just some of the people that preceded that image - not even
mentioning the folks that brought you V6 in the first place...
Then afterward folks like Warren for tirelessly making PUPS happen...
Cheers,
-- Ken
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