From: grog@lemis.com (Greg 'groggy' Lehey)
Subject: [pups] Re: Condition of 2BSD
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:38:03 +1030 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030320000803.GD47194@wantadilla.lemis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200303191740.h2JHeUf02457@moe.2bsd.com>
On Wednesday, 19 March 2003 at 9:40:30 -0800, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
>
>> I have a small question, which I hope you can clarify for me. I'm in a
>> little argument with a person involved in NetBSD.
>
> Ummm, I'm not a lawyer of course...
>
>> He claims that NetBSD is the oldest free BSD still alive, which I reacted
>> to since it was my belief that 2BSD now is free.
>
> But is 2BSD free? That I don't know. It is more free than it was
> a long time ago but
After Caldera released the Ancient UNIX license last January, 2BSD
must be free, unless I'm missing something.
>> This have resulted in the claim that Berkley is the one that is
>> restricting 2BSD, which was news to me. Is this in any way correct? The
>
>>
>> * Copyright (c) 1986 Regents of the University of California.
>> * All rights reserved. The Berkeley software License Agreement
>> * specifies the terms and conditions for redistribution.
>
> That was the earlier version of the BSD license - when you had to have
> a ATT/USL/BellLabs license in order to obtain BSD at all.
>
> I am not sure I have a copy of the original UCB license but I think
> part of it involved having a ATT/USL license.
Right, but that's what Caldera released.
>> Can you clarify this for me, please? :-)
>
> Does the current state of the Caldera/SCO/whatever license override
> any existing licenses? THAT I do not know.
My understanding (and I'm pretty sure it's correct) is that it
replaces the old AT&T license for the specified products, including
all AT&T precursors of [1-4]BSD.
> If that is the case
> then I would say that 2BSD is indeed free, on the other hand if people
> are still legally constrained by the earlier license then 2BSD is
> not totally free. Earlier versions of NetBSD would not be free
> either because they contain "encumbered code" from the era when a
> ATT/USL license was required.
They should now be free for the same reason.
Greg
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2003-03-19 17:40 Steven M. Schultz
2003-03-20 0:08 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey [this message]
2003-03-20 2:27 ` Michael Giegerich
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