* [TUHS] This is too weird @ 2003-06-10 18:49 Kenneth Stailey 2003-06-10 19:16 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai 2003-06-10 22:24 ` Warren Toomey 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-06-10 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw) http://www.sco.com/scosource/ Way to weird: http://www.sco.com/scosource/linuxqanda.html Q: What is SVR6? A: SVR6 is the code name for the next-generation operating platform designed to take advantage of Web services and is the foundation of our SCOx strategy. As the owners of the UNIX operating system, it is incumbent upon SCO to advance the UNIX kernel for both 32-bit and 64-bit architectures. This will be accomplished through the support of key industry partners who will also contribute to this next-generation platform. SVR6 will be formally announced at our upcoming SCO Forum event to be held in Las Vegas, Nevada on August 17-19 at the MGM Grand Hotel. It just keeps getting weirder: http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-10 18:49 [TUHS] This is too weird Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-06-10 19:16 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai 2003-06-10 20:15 ` Paul Ward 2003-06-10 22:24 ` Warren Toomey 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai @ 2003-06-10 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw) -On [20030610 21:02], Kenneth Stailey (kstailey at yahoo.com) wrote: >http://www.sco.com/scosource/linuxqanda.html > >Q: What is SVR6? >A: SVR6 is the code name for the next-generation operating platform designed to >take advantage of Web services and is the foundation of our SCOx strategy. As >the owners of the UNIX operating system, it is incumbent upon SCO to advance >the UNIX kernel for both 32-bit and 64-bit architectures. This will be >accomplished through the support of key industry partners who will also >contribute to this next-generation platform. SVR6 will be formally announced at >our upcoming SCO Forum event to be held in Las Vegas, Nevada on August 17-19 at >the MGM Grand Hotel. OK, I am trying to maintain a neutral stance to SCO, even though they're making it hard to do, but why does the above sound to me like trying to get extra ammo they can use in court? I mean I can already envision the way the talks will go: "But your honour, we are heavily dependent on our source code, since we are planning to unveil the SVR6 product in August and the things which happened with IBM and Linux put our plans in jeopardy..." >It just keeps getting weirder: > >http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html Ohh, now I get it. Where on earth do they get the SCO Linux pedigree and heritage from? I very much doubt that Linus was doing stuff based on SCO. (Hey, everyone with a bit of clue of what happened knows it was based upon Minix, sort of, but definately not SCO stuff.) I seriously, seriously wonder where this is leading to. The USA does not have the best track record where it comes to sensible court rulings, but if they have any Unix expert present he can refute a lot of the so-called claims SCO is making. This reminds me a lot of U-571, where Hollywood rewrote part of the real world history for storyline sake. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai(at)wxs.nl> / asmodai / a capoeirista PGP fingerprint: 2D92 980E 45FE 2C28 9DB7 9D88 97E6 839B 2EAC 625B http://www.tendra.org/ | http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/diary/ E pluribus unum... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-10 19:16 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai @ 2003-06-10 20:15 ` Paul Ward 2003-06-10 20:38 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai 2003-06-10 20:39 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Paul Ward @ 2003-06-10 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw) JRa> -On [20030610 21:02], Kenneth Stailey (kstailey at yahoo.com) wrote: >>http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html JRa> Ohh, now I get it. Where on earth do they get the SCO Linux pedigree JRa> and heritage from? I very much doubt that Linus was doing stuff based JRa> on SCO. (Hey, everyone with a bit of clue of what happened knows it was JRa> based upon Minix, sort of, but definately not SCO stuff.) Looks like the average marketing droid stuff... I like the way SCO appear to not want anything to do with kernels 2.0.x, 2.2.x, 2.3.x or 2.5.x even though that graph clearly shows UnixWare getting "contributions" from the Linux 2.2.x tree - case of someone being too quick with the highlight methinks. And, with all this SCO talk about SVR6 and about how good SCO UNIX is.. how come OpenServer feels very antiquated, and UnixWare very trashy and amateur? meep, another "asmodai" :) -- Best regards, Paul mailto:asmodai at ao.mine.nu ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-10 20:15 ` Paul Ward @ 2003-06-10 20:38 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai 2003-06-10 20:39 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai @ 2003-06-10 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw) -On [20030610 22:32], Paul Ward (asmodai at ao.mine.nu) wrote: >meep, another "asmodai" :) *grin* Been using the nick for a long while now even... Think I must be getting close to a 10 year anniversary or so. :) > Paul mailto:asmodai at ao.mine.nu ^^-> Forgotten Realms by chance? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai(at)wxs.nl> / asmodai / a capoeirista PGP fingerprint: 2D92 980E 45FE 2C28 9DB7 9D88 97E6 839B 2EAC 625B http://www.tendra.org/ | http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/diary/ And your ways appear a total lack of Faith... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-10 20:15 ` Paul Ward 2003-06-10 20:38 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai @ 2003-06-10 20:39 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai @ 2003-06-10 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw) Ships, sorry about that, seems mutt picked up a MUA follow-up to header and I didn't notice, because I relied on `r' just being a normal reply. :( Again, apologies. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai(at)wxs.nl> / asmodai / a capoeirista PGP fingerprint: 2D92 980E 45FE 2C28 9DB7 9D88 97E6 839B 2EAC 625B http://www.tendra.org/ | http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/diary/ Hope is the last refuge for mad men and dreamers... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-10 18:49 [TUHS] This is too weird Kenneth Stailey 2003-06-10 19:16 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai @ 2003-06-10 22:24 ` Warren Toomey 2003-06-10 22:57 ` Gregg C Levine ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Warren Toomey @ 2003-06-10 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 11:49:05AM -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > It just keeps getting weirder: > http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html Well, if SCO is claiming intellecutal property rights to Linux, why are they intimating that they will sue Linus? This is becoming an alternate reality. Warren ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-10 22:24 ` Warren Toomey @ 2003-06-10 22:57 ` Gregg C Levine 2003-06-11 1:19 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey 2003-06-11 3:02 ` Kenneth Stailey 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Gregg C Levine @ 2003-06-10 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1592 bytes --] Hello again from Gregg C Levine Folks it become an alternate reality, when SCO started the lawsuit. As far as I can see, and this is based on watching these posts, and others, on a different list, SCO is having problems. For example, they were not at LWE this past January, however, they were present last year, and for the few years that I've been going. I suspect that the company is having a bad time this time period and faked up the lawsuit to make up for that. And that's only my opinions. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > -----Original Message----- > From: tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org] On > Behalf Of Warren Toomey > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:24 PM > To: Kenneth Stailey > Cc: tuhs at tuhs.org > Subject: Re: [TUHS] This is too weird > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 11:49:05AM -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > > It just keeps getting weirder: > > http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html > > Well, if SCO is claiming intellecutal property rights to Linux, why > are they intimating that they will sue Linus? > > This is becoming an alternate reality. > > Warren > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-10 22:24 ` Warren Toomey 2003-06-10 22:57 ` Gregg C Levine @ 2003-06-11 1:19 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey 2003-06-11 6:10 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai 2003-06-11 3:02 ` Kenneth Stailey 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2003-06-11 1:19 UTC (permalink / raw) On Wednesday, 11 June 2003 at 8:24:21 +1000, Warren Toomey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 11:49:05AM -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote: >> It just keeps getting weirder: >> http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html > > Well, if SCO is claiming intellecutal property rights to Linux, why > are they intimating that they will sue Linus? I think that that was a slip of the tongue. At any rate, I don't think they have any intention of suing Linus. Maybe it's part of a FUD campaign. Greg -- Finger grog at lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20030611/cf969579/attachment.sig> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-11 1:19 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2003-06-11 6:10 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai 2003-06-11 6:18 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai @ 2003-06-11 6:10 UTC (permalink / raw) -On [20030611 03:46], Greg Lehey (grog at lemis.com) wrote: >I think that that was a slip of the tongue. At any rate, I don't >think they have any intention of suing Linus. Maybe it's part of a >FUD campaign. Not sure if you guys noticed that, but they pulled Caldera Linux off of their FTP site. I seriously wonder if there are any normal people with a sane mind there at SCO. I mean, it is so different from their previous antics in which they even allowed the old source code of the Unixes without any problems. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai(at)wxs.nl> / asmodai / a capoeirista PGP fingerprint: 2D92 980E 45FE 2C28 9DB7 9D88 97E6 839B 2EAC 625B http://www.tendra.org/ | http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/diary/ The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-11 6:10 ` Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai @ 2003-06-11 6:18 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2003-06-11 6:18 UTC (permalink / raw) On Wednesday, 11 June 2003 at 8:10:10 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/asmodai wrote: > -On [20030611 03:46], Greg Lehey (grog at lemis.com) wrote: >> I think that that was a slip of the tongue. At any rate, I don't >> think they have any intention of suing Linus. Maybe it's part of a >> FUD campaign. > > Not sure if you guys noticed that, but they pulled Caldera Linux off of > their FTP site. Definitely. They made a statement about it with the claim that they can't justify distributing it. My take is that they weren't making any money with it. > I seriously wonder if there are any normal people with a sane mind > there at SCO. I'm sure most are. But they don't want to get fired. > I mean, it is so different from their previous antics in which they > even allowed the old source code of the Unixes without any problems. Indeed. I have an ongoing analysis page at http://www.lemis.com/grog/sco.html which addresses most of these issues. Greg -- Finger grog at lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://minnie.tuhs.org/pipermail/tuhs/attachments/20030611/a513fe7f/attachment.sig> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-10 22:24 ` Warren Toomey 2003-06-10 22:57 ` Gregg C Levine 2003-06-11 1:19 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey @ 2003-06-11 3:02 ` Kenneth Stailey 2003-06-11 11:52 ` Wesley Parish 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-06-11 3:02 UTC (permalink / raw) --- Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 11:49:05AM -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > > It just keeps getting weirder: > > http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html > > Well, if SCO is claiming intellecutal property rights to Linux, why > are they intimating that they will sue Linus? > > This is becoming an alternate reality. > > Warren When we find out that there's SCO code in Cygwin call me. ;) The chart is a good way to confuse things. The poor guy that made the original must be crying that he let SCO use it years ago. The part that confuses me is that I remember there were dotted lines one on the original UNIX history chart that showed non-source-code-copying influences and now even the real UNIX history chart is using only solid lines. It makes MINIX look like it has 7th Ed code in it instead of just being a 7th Ed API implementation from scratch like it is. That's the part that's really on drugs by the time SCO is using it as evidence that there is a Linux pedigree or whatever that connects 7th Ed to Linux. I think the real story is that they want to make as much press as they can since it boosts their stock. Meanwhile every time they say they own UNIX they are complete liars because: > http://www.sco.com/scosource/linuxqanda.html > > As the owners of the UNIX operating system, it is incumbent upon SCO to To what? Violate their agreements with The Open Group? http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/23/1053585678840.html "Reference to the SCO web site shows that they own certain intellectual property and that they correctly attribute the trademark to The Open Group. SCO has never owned "UNIX". SCO is licensed to use the registered trademark UNIX "on and in connection" with their products that have been certified by The Open Group, as are all other licensees," the statement said. "These are the only circumstances in which a licensee may use the trademark UNIX on and in connection with its products. Statements that SCO 'owns the UNIX operating system', has 'licensed UNIX to XYZ' are clearly inaccurate and misleading." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-11 3:02 ` Kenneth Stailey @ 2003-06-11 11:52 ` Wesley Parish 2003-06-11 17:17 ` Gregg C Levine 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Wesley Parish @ 2003-06-11 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw) And Coherent! No, SCO has lost it, and lost all chance of ever regaining the trust of anyone with the barest skerrick of knowledge of Unix history. I checked out an interesting web site: http://www.robotwisdom.com/linux/nonnix.html I had no idea that cloning Unix had gotten off to such an early start - Idris from Plauger et al., Cromix from Cromemco, Yourdon's Omnix, Oasis, etc. SCO hasn't got a leg to stand on - on the other hand, are those toenails I see stuck in its teeth? Wesley Parish On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:02, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > --- Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 11:49:05AM -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > > > It just keeps getting weirder: > > > http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html > > > > Well, if SCO is claiming intellecutal property rights to Linux, why > > are they intimating that they will sue Linus? > > > > This is becoming an alternate reality. > > > > Warren > > When we find out that there's SCO code in Cygwin call me. ;) > > The chart is a good way to confuse things. The poor guy that made the > original must be crying that he let SCO use it years ago. > > The part that confuses me is that I remember there were dotted lines one on > the original UNIX history chart that showed non-source-code-copying > influences and now even the real UNIX history chart is using only solid > lines. It makes MINIX look like it has 7th Ed code in it instead of just > being a 7th Ed API implementation from scratch like it is. > > That's the part that's really on drugs by the time SCO is using it as > evidence that there is a Linux pedigree or whatever that connects 7th Ed to > Linux. > > I think the real story is that they want to make as much press as they can > since it boosts their stock. > > Meanwhile every time they say they own UNIX they are complete liars because: > > http://www.sco.com/scosource/linuxqanda.html > > > > As the owners of the UNIX operating system, it is incumbent upon SCO to > > To what? Violate their agreements with The Open Group? > > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/23/1053585678840.html > > "Reference to the SCO web site shows that they own certain intellectual > property and that they correctly attribute the trademark to The Open Group. > SCO has never owned "UNIX". SCO is licensed to use the registered > trademark UNIX "on and in connection" with their products that have been > certified by The Open Group, as are all other licensees," the statement > said. > > "These are the only circumstances in which a licensee may use the trademark > UNIX on and in connection with its products. Statements that SCO 'owns the > UNIX operating system', has 'licensed UNIX to XYZ' are clearly inaccurate > and misleading." > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > http://calendar.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs -- Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?" You ask, "What is the most important thing?" Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata." I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [TUHS] This is too weird 2003-06-11 11:52 ` Wesley Parish @ 2003-06-11 17:17 ` Gregg C Levine 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Gregg C Levine @ 2003-06-11 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4623 bytes --] Hello from Gregg C Levine Wes, I remember " Cromix from Cromemco", the company made Single Board Computers, I think they started making replacement hardware for the Imsai family. I didn't know that they had cloned, or something like that, for example UNIX, under its name. Heck, I even came within some order of magnitude of buying a setup from them, then. Funny, funny, the first Get Away Special, wore one of those, the school who built the thing, used a kludge from RS to program it. ------------------- Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) > -----Original Message----- > From: tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org [mailto:tuhs-bounces at minnie.tuhs.org] On > Behalf Of Wesley Parish > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:52 AM > To: tuhs at tuhs.org > Subject: Re: [TUHS] This is too weird > > And Coherent! > > No, SCO has lost it, and lost all chance of ever regaining the trust of anyone > with the barest skerrick of knowledge of Unix history. > > I checked out an interesting web site: > http://www.robotwisdom.com/linux/nonnix.html > I had no idea that cloning Unix had gotten off to such an early start - Idris > from Plauger et al., Cromix from Cromemco, Yourdon's Omnix, Oasis, etc. > > SCO hasn't got a leg to stand on - on the other hand, are those toenails I see > stuck in its teeth? > > Wesley Parish > > On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 15:02, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > > --- Warren Toomey <wkt at tuhs.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 11:49:05AM -0700, Kenneth Stailey wrote: > > > > It just keeps getting weirder: > > > > http://www.sco.com/scosource/unixtree/unixhistory01.html > > > > > > Well, if SCO is claiming intellecutal property rights to Linux, why > > > are they intimating that they will sue Linus? > > > > > > This is becoming an alternate reality. > > > > > > Warren > > > > When we find out that there's SCO code in Cygwin call me. ;) > > > > The chart is a good way to confuse things. The poor guy that made the > > original must be crying that he let SCO use it years ago. > > > > The part that confuses me is that I remember there were dotted lines one on > > the original UNIX history chart that showed non-source-code-copying > > influences and now even the real UNIX history chart is using only solid > > lines. It makes MINIX look like it has 7th Ed code in it instead of just > > being a 7th Ed API implementation from scratch like it is. > > > > That's the part that's really on drugs by the time SCO is using it as > > evidence that there is a Linux pedigree or whatever that connects 7th Ed to > > Linux. > > > > I think the real story is that they want to make as much press as they can > > since it boosts their stock. > > > > Meanwhile every time they say they own UNIX they are complete liars because: > > > http://www.sco.com/scosource/linuxqanda.html > > > > > > As the owners of the UNIX operating system, it is incumbent upon SCO to > > > > To what? Violate their agreements with The Open Group? > > > > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/23/1053585678840.html > > > > "Reference to the SCO web site shows that they own certain intellectual > > property and that they correctly attribute the trademark to The Open Group. > > SCO has never owned "UNIX". SCO is licensed to use the registered > > trademark UNIX "on and in connection" with their products that have been > > certified by The Open Group, as are all other licensees," the statement > > said. > > > > "These are the only circumstances in which a licensee may use the trademark > > UNIX on and in connection with its products. Statements that SCO 'owns the > > UNIX operating system', has 'licensed UNIX to XYZ' are clearly inaccurate > > and misleading." > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > > http://calendar.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > TUHS mailing list > > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > > -- > Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?" > You ask, "What is the most important thing?" > Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata." > I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people." > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > http://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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