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From: jkunz@unixag-kl.fh-kl.de (Jochen Kunz)
Subject: [TUHS] Re: 4.3 BSD version in the Unix Archive
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 09:10:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031001091030.C75184@MissSophie.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PMEAIMBALAHKECEIMJFGKEOAMCAA.jmbw@nather.com>; from jmbw@nather.com on Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 04:46:46 CEST

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On 2003.10.01 04:46 Markus Weber wrote:

> BTW, does NetBSD outperform Quasijarus on real hardware? 
No. NetBSD has ELF and shared libs. The later saves space but involves
some overhead. When it comes to compiling NetBSD looses. NetBSD uses
GCC. GCC is _very_ slow. GCC 3.x is even slower. 4.3BSD-Tahoe /
Quasijarus uses pcc that is _much_ faster in compiling. I did a "make
world" of 4.3BSD-Tahoe on a KA655 based MicroVAX III and it took a day
or so. I would not even try this with NetBSD (as I have much faster NVAX
machines for this).

The thing with NetBSD is that you get a modern *ix like OS complete with
ssh etc. and features like mmap(2) that 4.3BSD-Tahoe doesn't have. If
you are running a VAX emulator on PeeCee hardware you can use the
exelent cross compile features of NetBSD to cross build kernels on your
PeeCee. (Or Alpha, PowerPC, UltraSparc, ...) You don't even need to run
NetBSD on the compile host. 
-- 


tschüß,
       Jochen

Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-01  7:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <PMEAIMBALAHKECEIMJFGAENNMCAA.jmbw@nather.com>
2003-10-01  1:00 ` Gregg C Levine
2003-10-01  2:46   ` Markus Weber
2003-10-01  3:13     ` Robert Brockway
2003-10-01  7:10     ` Jochen Kunz [this message]
2003-10-01 14:39 Michael Sokolov
2003-10-02 15:48 ` Robert Brockway
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-29 18:50 Joseph F. Young
2003-09-30 13:04 ` Markus Weber
2003-09-30 19:02   ` Gregg C Levine
2003-09-26 20:47 Michael Sokolov
2003-10-01 15:33 ` Markus Weber
2003-10-01 16:56   ` Kenneth Stailey
2003-10-01 21:07     ` Markus Weber
2003-09-26 18:35 Michael Sokolov
2003-09-26 20:24 ` Markus Weber
2003-09-26 11:47 Michael Sokolov
2003-09-26 17:48 ` Markus Weber
2003-09-24  2:40 [TUHS] ctcompare 1.2 is up Warren Toomey
     [not found] ` <PMEAIMBALAHKECEIMJFGMELBMCAA.jmbw@nather.com>
2003-09-26  3:03   ` [TUHS] Re: 4.3 BSD version in the Unix Archive Warren Toomey

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