* [TUHS] UNIX/32V
@ 2003-10-20 16:02 Carl Lowenstein
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From: Carl Lowenstein @ 2003-10-20 16:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 22:35:32 +1300
> From: Wesley Parish <wes.parish at paradise.net.nz>
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] UNIX/32V
> To: tuhs at tuhs.org
>
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:20, Norman Wilson wrote:
> > Wesley Parish:
> >
> > I was wondering as well, are there any VAX assembler manuals online, in
> > an easily-copyable form?
> >
> > I've encountered html ones, but that isn't quite what I mean.
> >
> > What do you mean, then? In what way isn't HTML suitable?
> > I don't mean to be obstreperous; I just think it would be
> > easier to help if you made it clearer what you need and
> > what you don't.
>
> I'm a bit more used to using PDF for that purpose, since PDF data
> resides in a single file - ergo, easier downloads.
Download all the html. (use wget)
Make a list of the files in the order that they should appear in
the PDF file.
Use htmldoc < www.easysw.com/htmldoc/ > to make PDF or PostScript.
Htmldoc is interesting software -- it works well and is available in
source form with the caveat "here it is, take it and don't bother us
unless you want to buy a support contract".
carl
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* [TUHS] UNIX/32V
2003-10-19 13:00 ` Kroumovi, Ivaylo & Mladena
@ 2003-10-20 7:45 ` Wesley Parish
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From: Wesley Parish @ 2003-10-20 7:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:00, Kroumovi, Ivaylo & Mladena wrote:
> Wesley Parish wrote:
> > I was wondering as well, are there any VAX assembler manuals online, in
> > an easily-copyable form?
> >
> > I've encountered html ones, but that isn't quite what I mean.
> >
> > Wesley Parish
>
> here's some vax assembly manuals i found recently:
>
> brief, 15 pages description:
>
> "VAX Architecture & Assembly Reference"
> Rochester Institute of Technology, 2001 ??
> http://www.cs.rit.edu/~icss352/document/vax_pkt.pdf
>
> huge, 500+ pages, ultra-comprehensive:
>
> "VAX MACRO and Instruction Set Reference Manual"
> Compaq Computer Corporation, 2001
> http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/documentation/pdf/OVMS_73_VAX_MACRO_
>REF.pdf
Thanks! I've started downloading them.
Wesley Parish
>
> ivak
--
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
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* [TUHS] UNIX/32V
2003-10-19 6:46 ` Wesley Parish
2003-10-19 6:55 ` Robert Brockway
@ 2003-10-19 13:00 ` Kroumovi, Ivaylo & Mladena
2003-10-20 7:45 ` Wesley Parish
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From: Kroumovi, Ivaylo & Mladena @ 2003-10-19 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Wesley Parish wrote:
> I was wondering as well, are there any VAX assembler manuals online, in an
> easily-copyable form?
>
> I've encountered html ones, but that isn't quite what I mean.
>
> Wesley Parish
here's some vax assembly manuals i found recently:
brief, 15 pages description:
"VAX Architecture & Assembly Reference"
Rochester Institute of Technology, 2001 ??
http://www.cs.rit.edu/~icss352/document/vax_pkt.pdf
huge, 500+ pages, ultra-comprehensive:
"VAX MACRO and Instruction Set Reference Manual"
Compaq Computer Corporation, 2001
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/documentation/pdf/OVMS_73_VAX_MACRO_REF.pdf
ivak
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* [TUHS] UNIX/32V
2003-10-19 8:20 Norman Wilson
@ 2003-10-19 9:35 ` Wesley Parish
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From: Wesley Parish @ 2003-10-19 9:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 21:20, Norman Wilson wrote:
> Wesley Parish:
>
> I was wondering as well, are there any VAX assembler manuals online, in
> an easily-copyable form?
>
> I've encountered html ones, but that isn't quite what I mean.
>
> What do you mean, then? In what way isn't HTML suitable?
> I don't mean to be obstreperous; I just think it would be
> easier to help if you made it clearer what you need and
> what you don't.
I'm a bit more used to using PDF for that purpose, since PDF data resides in a
single file - ergo, easier downloads.
>
> To split hairs further, what do you mean by `VAX assembler
> manual'? There's a paper named Assember Reference Manual
> that came in Berkeley's Volume 2C for 3BSD, written by
> Reiser (Bell Labs) and Henry (Berkeley); it is a compact
> description of syntax and pseudo-ops, but doesn't list or
> explain the VAX instruction set itself.
That would get me part of the way.
>
> The best reference I know for the VAX instruction set is
> the official DEC manual called VAX Architecture Reference
> Manual (EK-VAXAR-RM), but at more than 500 pages it is not
> easily-copyable even in the way we thought of copying when
> it was published, i.e. that depicted on the cover of the
> latter-day Lions book.
Does anyone have a pdf of it? Or know where I could get a copy?
I know, I'll start googling for it right away.
Wesley Parish
>
> Norman Wilson
> Toronto ON
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Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
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* [TUHS] UNIX/32V
@ 2003-10-19 8:20 Norman Wilson
2003-10-19 9:35 ` Wesley Parish
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Norman Wilson @ 2003-10-19 8:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Wesley Parish:
I was wondering as well, are there any VAX assembler manuals online, in an
easily-copyable form?
I've encountered html ones, but that isn't quite what I mean.
What do you mean, then? In what way isn't HTML suitable?
I don't mean to be obstreperous; I just think it would be
easier to help if you made it clearer what you need and
what you don't.
To split hairs further, what do you mean by `VAX assembler
manual'? There's a paper named Assember Reference Manual
that came in Berkeley's Volume 2C for 3BSD, written by
Reiser (Bell Labs) and Henry (Berkeley); it is a compact
description of syntax and pseudo-ops, but doesn't list or
explain the VAX instruction set itself.
The best reference I know for the VAX instruction set is
the official DEC manual called VAX Architecture Reference
Manual (EK-VAXAR-RM), but at more than 500 pages it is not
easily-copyable even in the way we thought of copying when
it was published, i.e. that depicted on the cover of the
latter-day Lions book.
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
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* [TUHS] UNIX/32V
2003-10-19 6:46 ` Wesley Parish
@ 2003-10-19 6:55 ` Robert Brockway
2003-10-19 13:00 ` Kroumovi, Ivaylo & Mladena
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Robert Brockway @ 2003-10-19 6:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003, Wesley Parish wrote:
> I was wondering as well, are there any VAX assembler manuals online, in an
> easily-copyable form?
Have you tried using tools like html2text? Maybe they will do a decent
job for you.
Rob
--
Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert at timetraveller.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net
Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org)
"The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah
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* [TUHS] UNIX/32V
2003-10-18 16:21 ` Robert Brockway
@ 2003-10-19 6:46 ` Wesley Parish
2003-10-19 6:55 ` Robert Brockway
2003-10-19 13:00 ` Kroumovi, Ivaylo & Mladena
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Wesley Parish @ 2003-10-19 6:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
I was wondering as well, are there any VAX assembler manuals online, in an
easily-copyable form?
I've encountered html ones, but that isn't quite what I mean.
Wesley Parish
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 05:21, Robert Brockway wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, nao wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am interested in the history of VAX unices. On the modern extreme, I
> > obtained a pretty VAXstation 4000/VLC and it runs NetBSD now. I am
> > more than happy to play the original rogue from 4.2BSD. On the ancient
> > extreme, since I dare not to tame a beast like PDP-11/780, I am
>
> There are a number of PDP-11 emulators around these days, one of
> these might be the way to go. Some links:
>
> http://simh.trailing-edge.com/
> http://www.pdp11.org/
> http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/pdp11emu.html
> http://www.dbit.com/
>
> Rob
--
Mau e ki, "He aha te mea nui?"
You ask, "What is the most important thing?"
Maku e ki, "He tangata, he tangata, he tangata."
I reply, "It is people, it is people, it is people."
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* [TUHS] UNIX/32V
2003-10-18 9:19 nao
@ 2003-10-18 16:21 ` Robert Brockway
2003-10-19 6:46 ` Wesley Parish
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Robert Brockway @ 2003-10-18 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, nao wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am interested in the history of VAX unices. On the modern extreme, I
> obtained a pretty VAXstation 4000/VLC and it runs NetBSD now. I am
> more than happy to play the original rogue from 4.2BSD. On the ancient
> extreme, since I dare not to tame a beast like PDP-11/780, I am
There are a number of PDP-11 emulators around these days, one of
these might be the way to go. Some links:
http://simh.trailing-edge.com/
http://www.pdp11.org/
http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/pdp11emu.html
http://www.dbit.com/
Rob
--
Robert Brockway B.Sc. email: robert at timetraveller.org, zzbrock at uqconnect.net
Linux counter project ID #16440 (http://counter.li.org)
"The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" -Baha'u'llah
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* [TUHS] UNIX/32V
@ 2003-10-18 9:19 nao
2003-10-18 16:21 ` Robert Brockway
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: nao @ 2003-10-18 9:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
I am interested in the history of VAX unices. On the modern extreme, I
obtained a pretty VAXstation 4000/VLC and it runs NetBSD now. I am
more than happy to play the original rogue from 4.2BSD. On the ancient
extreme, since I dare not to tame a beast like PDP-11/780, I am
reading various papers and codes.
Now I am searching for the original article of UNIX/32V: T. B. London
& J. F. Reiser, ``A UNIX Operating System for the DEC VAX-11/780
Computer,'' Technical Report TM-78-1353-4, Bell Laboratories, Murray
Hill, NJ(July 1978), but it seems quite hard to find it. Is there
anyone who can tell me how can I obtain a copy?
Regards,
-nao
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