I have heard some grumblings of TOG possibly releasing CDE as open source, but have no idea of where that stands. To be perfectly frank, it had a lot of problems, especially in a 64-bit world. There were too many word size assumptions, and a very good friend struggled for many, many hours fixing those problems before it went to DEIL in India for support. It could probably still benefit from a good �many eyes� developer review and bug fix session in the hands of open source developers. However, IMHO, it no longer has any advantage over KDE or Gnome, but, as I said, that is my opinion. Personally, I�d love to see OSF1 released open source. There were experimental x86 and two Itanium versions in various states of completion floating around DEC/Compaq/HP. I was part of the last Itanium effort before the HP merger. That one booted to single user before the project was killed. OSF1/Digital UNIX/Tru64 UNIX was already branded as UNIX, and it would be fun to see what would happen to the landscape if a branded UNIX was free. Unfortunately, too many proprietary licensed pieces of code in the HP version, especially in System V support, for that to ever happen. Oh well, we can all dream � Pat > On Wed, 17 May 2006, patv at monmouth.com wrote: > > > Another loss to the UNIX community that I can personally report was the > > closing, one year ago this month, of the old DEC Manalpan facility (UNX). > > This was the home of VAX System V, a large portion of Ultrix, and > > everything that made up OSF1/Digital UNIX/Tru64 UNIX except for kernel, > > drivers, and several other components (although I personally did some > > kernel work on occasion). We did shell and utilities, about 1/2 of X, > > Motif, CDE, installation, mail, and other parts of the OS that made it > > useful. If you look at old uucp headers anywhere on usenet, any of the > > traffic with headers that included systems with "unx" in the name was > > routed through this facility. I was there from when it was Digital > > through Compaq and finally HP, almost all the way through to the closing. > > It would be nice if CDE were free, the rest is either part of the Heirloom > project or cloned in some open-source system (e.g., Lesstif). --; > > -uso. > _______________________________________________ > TUHS mailing list > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs > --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Monmouth Internet MI-Webmail. http://www.monmouth.com/