[TUHS] UNIX as literature

[TUHS] UNIX as literature

[Wolfgang Helbig]

Greg,

After I read all of it consulting my dictionary a lot one question remains:
What are "Cliffs Notes"?

Regards,
Wolfgang

--
Weniger, aber besser.

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[Lyrical Nanoha]

On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Wolfgang Helbig wrote:

> Greg,
>
> After I read all of it consulting my dictionary a lot one question remains:
> What are "Cliffs Notes"?
>
> Regards,
> Wolfgang

A brief summary and some rough notes on a work of literature, often used 
by high school students who wish to avoid reading the book.

-uso.

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[Gregg C Levine]

Hello!
Not anymore. The last I had heard was that Cliff Notes had ceased
publishing around the beginning of this century. All of the ones that
roost in the public library here in Queens happen to be dated 1999 at
the latest. Someone asked what happened to the newer ones and was told
that.
--
Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon at worldnet.att.net
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> 
> On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Wolfgang Helbig wrote:
> 
> > Greg,
> >
> > After I read all of it consulting my dictionary a lot one question
remains:
> > What are "Cliffs Notes"?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Wolfgang
> 
> A brief summary and some rough notes on a work of literature, often
used
> by high school students who wish to avoid reading the book.
> 
> -uso.
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[Michael Parson]

On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 01:08:03PM -0400, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Hello!
> Not anymore. The last I had heard was that Cliff Notes had ceased
> publishing around the beginning of this century. All of the ones that
> roost in the public library here in Queens happen to be dated 1999 at
> the latest. Someone asked what happened to the newer ones and was told
> that.

They've still got a website up:

http://www.cliffsnotes.com/

And have links for buying stuff.

-- 
Michael Parson
mparson at bl.org

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[Wesley Parish]

Quoting Tim Newsham <newsham at lava.net>:

> > This reminded me of a time not so long ago when I was seated in
> Starbucks in
> > Menlo Park enjoying my Caramel Macchiato Venti and overhearing a
> heated
> > debate between 6 or 7 guys about the GUI vs. command line issue. It
> seemed
> > to start when a couple of guys in one party, seemingly unknown to the
> other
> > party, who were talking about kde, rudely butted in to their
> conversation.
> > Anyway the debate got so verbal that in the end they were all ushered
> out of
> > Starbucks in an effort to keep the peace. How funny it was.
> 
> The bandwidth of a mouse and menus is not very high. The bandwidth of a
> 
> keyboard is a lot higher. Going the other way, though, the bandwidth of
> 
> graphical data is much higher than textual data (perhaps as high
> as a thousand words per picture).

AKA, "If a face could sink/launch a thousand ships, then why can't I paint you?\
 The words will never show, the you I've come to know ..." ;)

Graphical displays of data excel in showing relationships and patterns. 
Discovering patterns in text can be much, much harder.  Hence the blink
comparator in astronomy.  And Fred Hoyle's feeble attempt to describe such a
form of data transfer in "The Black Cloud".

But a lot depends on one's familiarity with the idioms of the graphical data -
anyone can see a desolate outback, but it took an Albert Namatjira to make us
see it as beautiful.

Wesley Parish
> 
> > Berny
> 
> Tim Newsham
> http://www.lava.net/~newsham/
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"Brim the tinfall with mirthful bands" 
- A Deepness in the Sky, Vernor Vinge

"I me.  Shape middled me.  I would come out into hot!" 
I from the spicy that day was overcasked mockingly - it's a symbol of the 
other horizon. - emacs : meta x dissociated-press

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[Tim Newsham]

> This reminded me of a time not so long ago when I was seated in Starbucks in
> Menlo Park enjoying my Caramel Macchiato Venti and overhearing a heated
> debate between 6 or 7 guys about the GUI vs. command line issue. It seemed
> to start when a couple of guys in one party, seemingly unknown to the other
> party, who were talking about kde, rudely butted in to their conversation.
> Anyway the debate got so verbal that in the end they were all ushered out of
> Starbucks in an effort to keep the peace. How funny it was.

The bandwidth of a mouse and menus is not very high.  The bandwidth of a 
keyboard is a lot higher.  Going the other way, though, the bandwidth of 
graphical data is much higher than textual data (perhaps as high
as a thousand words per picture).

> Berny

Tim Newsham
http://www.lava.net/~newsham/

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[Milo Velimirovic]

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On Jun 9, 2006, at 6:42 AM, bgoodheart wrote:

[snip]
> This reminded me of a time not so long ago when I was seated in  
> Starbucks in
> Menlo Park enjoying my Caramel Macchiato Venti and overhearing a  
> heated
> debate between 6 or 7 guys about the GUI vs. command line issue. It  
> seemed
> to start when a couple of guys in one party, seemingly unknown to  
> the other
> party, who were talking about kde, rudely butted in to their  
> conversation.
> Anyway the debate got so verbal that in the end they were all  
> ushered out of
> Starbucks in an effort to keep the peace. How funny it was.

  a 'c | n > k' moment...



--
Milo Velimirović
University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
La Crosse, Wisconsin 54601 USA
43 48 48 N 91 13 53 W
--
There's a reason Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson have been awarded  
the U.S. National Medal of Technology (1998) and are fellows of the  
Computer History Museum Online. Dave Cutler hasn't and isn't.
"You are not expected to understand this."

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[Norman Wilson]

Berny:

  This reminded me of a time not so long ago when I was seated in Starbucks in
  Menlo Park enjoying my Caramel Macchiato Venti and overhearing a heated
  debate between 6 or 7 guys about the GUI vs. command line issue. It seemed
  to start when a couple of guys in one party, seemingly unknown to the other
  party, who were talking about kde, rudely butted in to their conversation.
  Anyway the debate got so verbal that in the end they were all ushered out of
  Starbucks in an effort to keep the peace. How funny it was.

=======

The Linux crowd is indeed ruder and more argumentative than the
hackers of my youth.

Maybe it's because they hang out in Starbucks, rather than in
all-night terminal rooms with Coke machines down the hall.

Or maybe it's just my memory.

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
Somewhat more than 30 years into the disease

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[bgoodheart]

A great read Greg and so true too. Thanks for posting that.

I particularly liked the bit about the overheard conversation in Palo Alto

"there used to be a shrimp-and-pasta plate here under ten bucks. Let me
see...cat menu | grep shrimp | test -lt $10..." though not syntactically
correct (and less-than-scintillating conversation), a diner from an NT shop
probably couldn't have expressed himself as casually.

This reminded me of a time not so long ago when I was seated in Starbucks in
Menlo Park enjoying my Caramel Macchiato Venti and overhearing a heated
debate between 6 or 7 guys about the GUI vs. command line issue. It seemed
to start when a couple of guys in one party, seemingly unknown to the other
party, who were talking about kde, rudely butted in to their conversation.
Anyway the debate got so verbal that in the end they were all ushered out of
Starbucks in an effort to keep the peace. How funny it was.

Cheers,
Berny

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[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

This recently went round the FreeBSD-chat mailing list.  I rather like
it, and tend to agree with the opinions.  Unfortunately, the URL
appears mutilated, and the site itself is "under maintenance", but
Google points me at what appears to be the same article at
http://www.rap.ucar.edu/staff/tres/elements.html

I haven't resisted the temptation to re-wrap the paragraphs :-)

Greg

Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 19:55:31 -0400
From: Allen <slackwarewolf@comcast.net>

this is somewhat long... But some of you may have already read it, and
probably liked it:

[ From http://www.performancecomputing.com...s/9809of1.shtml ]

The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature

If there's nothing different about UNIX people, how come
so many were liberal-arts majors? It's the love of words
that makes UNIX stand out.

Thomas Scoville

In the late 1980s, I worked in the advanced R&D arm of the Silicon
Valley's regional telephone company. My lab was populated mostly by
Ph.D.s and gifted hackers. It was, as you might expect, an all-UNIX
shop.

The manager of the group was an exception: no advanced degree, no
technical credentials. He seemed pointedly self-conscious about it. We
suspected he felt (wrongly, we agreed) underconfident of his education
and intellect.

One day, a story circulated through the group that confirmed our
suspicions: the manager had confided he was indeed intimidated by the
intelligence of the group, and was taking steps to remedy the
situation.

His prescription, though, was unanticipated: "I need to become more of
an intellectual," he said. "I'm going to learn UNIX."

Needless to say, we made more than a little fun out of this. I mean,
come on: as if UNIX could transform him into a mastermind, like the
supplicating scarecrow in "The Wizard of Oz." I uncharitably imagined
a variation on the old Charles Atlas ads: "Those senior engineers will
never kick sand in my face again."

But part of me was sympathetic: "The boss isn't entirely wrong, is he?
There is something different about UNIX people, isn't there?" In the
years since, I've come to recognize what my old manager was getting
at.

I still think he was misguided, but in retrospect I think his belief
was more accurate than I recognized at the time.

To be sure, the UNIX community has its own measure of technical
parochialism and nerdy tunnel vision, but in my experience there
seemed to be a suspicious overrepresentation of polyglots and
liberal-arts folks in UNIX shops.

I'll admit my evidence is sketchy and anecdotal. For instance, while
banging out a line of shell, with a fellow engineer peering over my
shoulder, I might make an intentionally obscure literary reference:

if test -z `ps -fe | grep whom`
then
echo ^G
fi
# Let's see for whom the bell tolls.

UNIX colleagues were much more likely to recognize and play in a way
I'd never expect in the VMS shops, IBM's big-iron data centers, or DOS
ghettos on my consulting beat.

Being a liberal-arts type myself (though I cleverly concealed this in
my resume), I wondered why this should be true.

My original explanation--UNIX's historical association with university
computing environments, like UC Berkeley's--didn't hold up over the
years; many of the UNIX-philiacs I met came from schools with small or
absent computer science departments.

There had to be a connection, but I had no plausible hypothesis.

It wasn't until I started regularly asking UNIX refuseniks what they
didn't like about UNIX that better explanations emerged.

Some of the prevailing dislike had a distinctly populist
flavor--people caught a whiff of snobbery about UNIX and regarded it
with the same proletarian resentment usually reserved for highbrow
institutions like opera or ballet.

They had a point: until recently, UNIX was the lingua franca of
computing's upper crust. The more harried, practical, and
underprivileged of the computing world seemed to object to this aura
of privilege.

UNIX adepts historically have been a coddled bunch, and tend to be
proud of their hard-won knowledge. But these class differences are
fading fast in modern computing environments.

Now UNIX engineers are more common, and low- or no-cost UNIX
variations run on inexpensive hardware. Certainly UNIX folks aren't as
coddled in the age of NT.

There was a standard litany of more specific criticisms: UNIX is
difficult and time-consuming to learn. There are too many things to
remember. It's arcane and needlessly complex.

But the most recurrent complaint was that it was too
text-oriented. People really hated the command line, with all the
utilities, obscure flags, and arguments they had to memorize. They
hated all the typing.

One mislaid character and you had to start over. Interestingly, this
complaint came most often from users of the GUI-laden Macintosh or
Windows platforms.  People who had slaved away on DOS batch scripts or
spent their days on character-based terminals of multiuser non-UNIX
machines were less likely to express the same grievance.

Though I understood how people might be put off by having to remember
such willfully obscure utility names like cat and grep, I continued to
be puzzled at why they resented typing.

Then I realized I could connect the complaint with the scores of
"intellectual elite" (as my manager described them) in UNIX shops. The
common thread was wordsmithing; a suspiciously high proportion of my
UNIX colleagues had already developed, in some prior career, a comfort
and fluency with text and printed words.

They were adept readers and writers, and UNIX played handily to those
strengths. UNIX was, in some sense, literature to them. Suddenly the
overrepresentation of polyglots, liberal-arts types, and voracious
readers in the UNIX community didn't seem so mysterious, and pointed
the way to a deeper issue: in a world increasingly dominated by image
culture (TV, movies, .jpg files), UNIX remains rooted in the culture
of the word.

UNIX programmers express themselves in a rich vocabulary of system
utilities and command-line arguments, along with a flexible, varied
grammar and syntax.

For UNIX enthusiasts, the language becomes second nature.

Once, I overheard a conversation in a Palo Alto restaurant:

"there used to be a shrimp-and-pasta plate here under ten bucks. Let
me see...cat menu | grep shrimp | test -lt $10..." though not
syntactically correct (and less-than-scintillating conversation), a
diner from an NT shop probably couldn't have expressed himself as
casually.

With UNIX, text--on the command line, STDIN, STDOUT, STDERR--is the
primary interface mechanism: UNIX system utilities are a sort of Lego
construction set for word-smiths.

Pipes and filters connect one utility to the next, text flows
invisibly between. Working with a shell, awk/lex derivatives, or the
utility set is literally a word dance.

Working on the command line, hands poised over the keys uninterrupted
by frequent reaches for the mouse, is a posture familiar to wordsmiths
(especially the really old guys who once worked on teletypes or
electric typewriters).

It makes some of the same demands as writing an essay. Both require
composition skills. Both demand a thorough knowledge of grammar and
syntax. Both reward mastery with powerful, compact expression.

At the risk of alienating both techies and writers alike, I also
suggest that UNIX offers something else prized in literature: a
coherence, a consistent style, something writers call a voice.

It doesn't take much exposure to UNIX before you realize that the UNIX
core was the creation of a very few well-synchronized minds.

I've never met Dennis Ritchie, Brian Kernighan, or Ken Thompson, but
after a decade and a half on UNIX I imagine I might greet them as
friends, knowing something of the shape of their thoughts.

You might argue that UNIX is as visually oriented as other OSs. Modern
UNIX offerings certainly have their fair share of GUI-based OS
interfaces.

In practice though, the UNIX core subverts them; they end up serving
UNIX's tradition of word culture, not replacing it.

Take a look at the console of most UNIX workstations: half the windows
you see are terminal emulators with command-line prompts or vi jobs
running within.

Nowhere is this word/image culture tension better represented than in
the contrast between UNIX and NT. When the much-vaunted UNIX-killer
arrived a few years ago, backed by the full faith and credit of the
Redmond juggernaut, I approached it with an open mind.

But NT left me cold. There was something deeply unsatisfying about
it. I had that ineffable feeling (apologies to Gertrude Stein) there
was no there there.

Granted, I already knew the major themes of system and network
administration from my UNIX days, and I will admit that registry
hacking did vex me for a few days, but after my short scramble up the
learning curve I looked back at UNIX with the feeling I'd been demoted
from a backhoe to a leaf-blower.

NT just didn't offer room to move. The one-size-fits-all,
point-and-click, we've-already-anticipated-all-your-needs world of NT
had me yearning for those obscure command-line flags and man -k.

I wanted to craft my own solutions from my own toolbox, not have my
ideas slammed into the visually homogenous, prepackaged, Soviet world
of Microsoft Foundation Classes.

NT was definitely much too close to image culture for my comfort:
endless point-and-click graphical dialog boxes, hunting around the
screen with the mouse, pop-up after pop-up demanding my attention.

The experience was almost exclusively reactive. Every task demanded a
GUI-based utility front-end loaded with insidious assumptions about
how to visualize (and thus conceptualize) the operation.

I couldn't think "outside the box" because everything literally was a
box. There was no opportunity for ad hoc consideration of how a task
might alternately be performed.

I will admit NT made my life easier in some respects. I found myself
doing less remembering (names of utilities, command arguments, syntax)
and more recognizing (solution components associated with check boxes,
radio buttons, and pull-downs).

I spent much less time typing. Certainly my right hand spent much more
time herding the mouse around the desktop.

But after a few months I started to get a tired, desolate feeling,
akin to the fatigue I feel after too much channel surfing or
videogaming: too much time spent reacting, not enough spent in active
analysis and expression. In short, image-culture burnout.

The one ray of light that illuminated my tenure in NT environments was
the burgeoning popularity of Perl. Perl seemed to find its way into NT
shops as a CGI solution for Web development, but people quickly
recognized its power and adopted it for uses far outside the scope of
Web development: system administration, revision control, remote file
distribution, network administration.

The irony is that Perl itself is a subset of UNIX features condensed
into a quick-and-dirty scripting language. In a literary light, if
UNIX is the Great Novel, Perl is the Cliffs Notes.

Mastery of UNIX, like mastery of language, offers real freedom. The
price of freedom is always dear, but there's no substitute.

Personally, I'd rather pay for my freedom than live in a bitmapped,
pop-up-happy dungeon like NT. I'm hoping that as IT folks become more
seasoned and less impressed by superficial convenience at the expense
of real freedom, they will yearn for the kind of freedom and
responsibility UNIX allows. When they do, UNIX will be there to fill
the need.

Thomas Scoville has been wrestling with UNIX since 1983. He currently
works at Expert Support Inc. in Mountain View, CA.

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