From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: wes.parish@paradise.net.nz (Wesley Parish) Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 20:58:03 +1300 Subject: [pups] Suitable PDP11s, in the UK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200711032058.03972.wes.parish@paradise.net.nz> On Saturday 03 November 2007 02:42, Brantley Coile wrote: > Wes, > Is this the book you are thinking of? > > http://research.microsoft.com/users/gbell/Computer_Engineering/index.html Yes, thanks! Wesley Parish > > > To add to this, there used to be a book on computer engineering with > > details on designing a PDP of some particular nature. (It might even > > have been a PDP-11.) > > > > Is it possible to persuade the writer of that book - a University > > textbook I think - to donate it to PUPS? Alternatively, does someone > > have an updated PDP-11 design that they would be willing to donate to > > PUPS for anyone with a soldering iron and enough time, to play with? > > > > I'm thinking this would be the way to solve this sort of problem in one > > fell swoop, if as I suspect is likely, it is impossible to find a working > > and available PDP-11 in the UK. > > > > Just my 0.02c worth - and my, hasn't inflation risen ... ;) > > > > Wesley Parish > > > > On Friday 02 November 2007 06:31, Tim Bradshaw wrote: > >> Having long ago got rid of my collection of ageing British (super) > >> minis, I realise I'm missing them, though I'm not sure why. I can't > >> pretend any more that something running 4.2BSD is really practical, > >> so I'd like to get something really impractical, like a pdp11. > >> > >> What I'd like to be able to do is run 7th edition or thereabouts and/ > >> or 2.11BSD on something which is not too large (so full-height 19" > >> racks are out). I'm not interested in emulators. It looks to me > >> like there are such systems - for instance the recently-discussed > >> 11/23 (or 11/73) looks practical, other than being in Utah. > >> > >> So I guess I have two questions: > >> > >> Firstly is this a practical thing to do in terms of reliability of HW > >> etc? I finally gave up on the previous lot of machines at least > >> partly because disks &c were just so flaky that it was too painful to > >> keep things working (also we're talking full-height 19" racks in some > >> cases so they were a bit, well, big). I don't want to spend my life > >> trying to source ancient disks etc (though I'm clearly not expecting > >> things to be as reliable as good, new modern kit). > >> > >> Secondly, does anyone in the UK (may be there is no one but me, of > >> course...) have any hints where I might look and what I might expect > >> to pay. I've looked on ebay but I'm a little nervous of what I might > >> get that way. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> --tim > >> _______________________________________________ > >> PUPS mailing list > >> PUPS at minnie.tuhs.org > >> https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups > > > > -- > > Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish > > ----- > > Gaul is quartered into three halves. Things which are > > impossible are equal to each other. Guerrilla > > warfare means up to their monkey tricks. > > Extracts from "Schoolboy Howlers" - the collective wisdom > > of the foolish. > > ----- > > Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? > > You ask, what is the most important thing? > > Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. > > I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people. > > _______________________________________________ > > PUPS mailing list > > PUPS at minnie.tuhs.org > > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups > > _______________________________________________ > PUPS mailing list > PUPS at minnie.tuhs.org > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/pups -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish ----- Gaul is quartered into three halves. Things which are impossible are equal to each other. Guerrilla warfare means up to their monkey tricks. Extracts from "Schoolboy Howlers" - the collective wisdom of the foolish. ----- Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.