From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: wb@freebie.xs4all.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:36:55 +0100 Subject: [TUHS] Irwin 285 In-Reply-To: <20100121201125.GG9956@bitmover.com> References: <20100121121917.eb90e950.jkunz@unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> <20100121113213.GB14623@freebie.xs4all.nl> <48239d391001210407t7633e9d1p692be7de51ccb9dd@mail.gmail.com> <20100121181147.97ae525c.jkunz@unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> <20100121185917.GA25619@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20100121204829.672d59a7.jkunz@unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> <20100121195619.GE25687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20100121195818.GF9956@bitmover.com> <20100121200034.GG25687@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20100121201125.GG9956@bitmover.com> Message-ID: <20100121203655.GH25687@freebie.xs4all.nl> Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:11:25PM -0800 .. > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 09:00:34PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Quoting Larry McVoy, who wrote on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:58:18AM -0800 .. > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 08:56:19PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > Quoting Jochen Kunz, who wrote on Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 08:48:29PM +0100 .. > > > > > On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:59:17 +0100 > > > > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > QIC is OK, but the capacity zukz.. > > > > > Depends. It is perfectly suited as backup for a vintage Unix system > > > > > like a Sun 3 / 4 or SGI. (My SGI Personal IRIS 4D35 has a 250 MB QIC > > > > > > > > Sun 3 had rather small QIC tapes, I think I had 60MB in mine? > > > > > > > > > drive for OS instales and backup.) Also note that the latest QIC in > > > > > its SLR / MLR incarnation had a capacity of 20 GB. > > > > > > > > I gave up on QIC when I had a 2GB version. Had a lot to do with the fact I > > > > was given a DLT, I admit :) > > > > > > Does anyone still use tape for personal backup? I've long since gone to > > > external usb drives that I shove in the gun safe (aka fire safe). > > > > LTO3 here :) But the disks are getting to be too big to fit a level 0 on a > > single tape. I need to go and try to understand something like Amanda > > backup s/w I think. Suggestions welcome. > > Dude, 800GB when there are 2TB drives? My suggestions are > > a) don't put that much shit on a single drive, you are just asking for > headaches. Don't tell me you can't break it up, of course you can. I know... I've spent years and years in storage engineering and support. I run RAID on my drives, no worries there ;) > b) use drives. They are the new tape. > > LTO3 800GB drive: $1200 plus $30/800GB tape. > WD 1TB drives: $90. > > Just the LT03 drive itself gives you 13 1TB drives. Add one of those > USB external drive drop in connectors and use the drives just like tapes > except one hell of a lot faster, especially for restores. Sure. I know. Big SATA drives are cheap over here as well, like 1.5T for 110 EURO or somesuch. I just happen to own a LTO3 and enough tapes already, so the economics are not the issue. Just need to have a proper piece of open source backup software that runs on FreeBSD. Wilko _______________________________________________ TUHS mailing list TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs