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From: cowan@mercury.ccil.org (John Cowan)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:17:46 -0500
Subject: [TUHS] History of #! interpretation in Unix
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Sven Mascheck scripsit:

> DMR might have known the csh-hack (and if a comment character is
> implemented anywhere, here csh, then it's obvious to use it for #!)

That might account for the "#", but not for "#!" taken together.
Having two different people invent the shebang independently (as opposed
to *implementing* it independently, as has happened many times -- 8th
Edition, SVR4, Linux, etc.) is just too improbable for me to swallow.

> > > I thought sh-like shells in general try to interprete scripts themselves
> > > upon an ENOEXEC.  Do you know certain shells which actually call "/bin/sh"?
> > 
> > Yes, seemingly bash does that too.  Bogus.
> 
> How'd you get the impression?  I can't verify this.

No, I meant that bash does what ksh does: uses itself, which means that a
shebang-free script runs differently on bash, ksh, dash.  This is IMHO
unfortunate.

> (That's the only way how executing on in POSIX shell is possible, BTW,
> because neither #! nor paths are standardized).

Good point.  IMHO the Posix sh definition should be extended so that all
shells claiming Posix-compliance should do shebangs.

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