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From: lm@bitmover.com (Larry McVoy)
Subject: [TUHS] curmudgeon credit
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 09:28:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130428162844.GB1001@bitmover.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201304280534.r3S5YrSu002857@skeeve.com>

On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 08:34:53AM +0300, Aharon Robbins wrote:
> > What I'd like is a new 64 bit PDP-11.  That assembler was wonderful to
> > read and write, only a short distance from C.
> 
> True.

> IF you are not writing the compiler or the low level OS routines, what
> freaking difference does it make?  

We build source management systems and we still drop into assembler for
some stuff.  For example, we want to give ourselves a stack traceback
when something dies.  Another example is inner loops that are performance
critical, we stare at the assembler.

I don't expect the world to suddenly sit up and decide that it is important
to do what I want and give me my 64 bit PDP-11, but if that happened I'd
cheer :)

I think part of it is a yearning for simpler times.  That architecture 
was just so pleasant, you could move quite easily from C to assembler
and back again.  If I had to teach CS these days I'd prefer that 
assembler (but actually using it would be a disservice to the kids,
you want them to know x86 or ARM at this point).
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Larry McVoy                lm at bitmover.com           http://www.bitkeeper.com



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-28 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-27 21:26 [TUHS] Need a new PDP-11 or VAX? Dave Horsfall
2013-04-27 22:41 ` Larry McVoy
2013-04-27 23:53   ` Dave Horsfall
2013-04-28  0:12   ` Ronald Natalie
2013-04-28  1:39   ` John Cowan
2013-04-28  3:38     ` Nick Downing
2013-04-28  3:48       ` Larry McVoy
2013-04-28  3:57     ` Larry McVoy
2013-04-28  5:57       ` John Cowan
2013-04-28  5:34   ` [TUHS] curmudgeon credit Aharon Robbins
2013-04-28  7:08     ` Nick Downing
2013-05-14  6:11       ` Aaron J. Grier
2013-05-14  6:52         ` emu
2013-05-14  7:51           ` David Evans
2013-04-28 16:28     ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2013-04-28  7:45   ` [TUHS] Need a new PDP-11 or VAX? Peter Jeremy
2013-04-28 10:50     ` Ronald Natalie
2013-04-28  0:15 ` Ronald Natalie

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