From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: tuhs@cuzuco.com (Brian S Walden)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 20:41:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [TUHS] History of chown semantics
Message-ID: <201401100141.s0A1fcTl029059@cuzuco.com>

Yep, but where did the user base from PWB come from? They were
existing professional programmers from the mainframe world, still
writing for the mainframe, now sumbmitting via UNIX RJE.

Where did the sysadmins of PWB that added these users come from?
Same answer. If users are not added into the right groups, and
the users don't know (or need, care, or be able change) groups,
they don't get implemented properly.

And if you don't have gids, want to collaborate, and are discouraged
from copying, you need to do a ton of chown()s

> From: Larry McVoy <lm at bitmover.com>
> 
> > Now you are going to say this could all be done with proper use of group ids
> > and group permissions.  I agree, but in practice it was not done
> 
> Bzzt.  We have a solution, they should have used it.
>