[TUHS] UNIX magazines

[TUHS] UNIX magazines

[Brian Walden]

UNIX/WORLD started in 1984 and was renamed UnixWorld Magazine: Open
Systems Computing in 1991 and then UnixWorld's Open Computing in 1994
and it folded in 1995.

SunExpert started in 1989 was renamed to Server/Workstatsion Expert in
1999 and it folded in 2001.  I always enjoyed Mike OBrien's offbeat
"Ask Mr. Protocol"

> From: Dan Cross <crossd at gmail.com>
> There were several, starting I guess in the 80s mostly.  The one I remember
> in particular was "Unix Review", but there were a few "journal" type
> magazines that also specialized in Unix-y things (e.g., ";login:" from
> USENIX; still published, I believe), and several associated with particular
> vendors: "SunExpert" was one, if I recall correctly.
> 
> Occasionally, Unix and related things showed up in the "mainstream"
> consumer computer press of the time.  I can remember in particular an issue
> of "PC Magazine" (I think June of 1993) that ran a lengthy couple of
> articles proving machines from Sun and SGI, in addition to version of Unix
> that ran on PCs (interestingly, Linux was omitted despite really starting
> to capture a lot of the imagination in that space; similarly I don't recall
> any mention of BSD).
> 
> Some of these old magazines are definitely blasts from the past.
> 
>         - Dan C.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Sergey Lapin <slapinid at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, all!
> >
> > I've read recently published link to byte article and got an idea....
> > Was there a magazine related to UNIX systems in 70s-80s?
> > I had so much fun reading that Byte issue, even ads (especially ads!)
> > It is so fun...
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > TUHS mailing list
> > TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
> > https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs
> >

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[A. P. Garcia]

On Jun 13, 2014 7:43 PM, "Nelson H. F. Beebe" <beebe at math.utah.edu> wrote:
>
> There is a complete bibliography of the journal Computing Systems
> (1988--1996) here:
>
>         http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/compsys.bib
>         [change .bib to .html for a version with hyperlinks]
>
> Other journals about aspects of Unix include:
>
>         Bell System Technical journal family (complete 1920--date)
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1920.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1930.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1940.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1950.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1960.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1970.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1980.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1990.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj2000.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj2010.bib
>
>         Journal of C Language Translation (1989--1995)
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/jclt.bib
>
>         Usenix conference proceedings and ";login" journal (incomplete)
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/usenix1980.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/usenix1990.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/usenix2000.bib
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/usenix2010.bib
>
>         The X Resource: A Practical Journal of the X Window System
(1991--1994)
>                 http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/xres.bib
>
> There are also bibliographies of books about Unix, Linux, and the GNU
> Project:
>
>         http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/gnu.bib
>         http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/linux.bib
>         http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/unix.bib
>
> Finally, there is a small bibliography of the AT&/Princeton lcc
> compiler:
>
>         http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/lcc.bib
>
> There are more than 800 bibliographies in those archives with about
> 1.01 million entries.  Please mirror them to your site(s): mirror
> instructions, overviews, and space requirements can be found at the
> top-level sites
>
>         http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/
>         http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/bibnet/
>
> The collections are active, and continuously enhanced and extended,
> with dozens of files being updated or added weekly.  Using rsync for
> mirroring is easy and fast, so nightly or weekly mirrors pose no
> problem at either end of the connection.
>
> There is also a TUHS mirror in Salt Lake City, Utah:
>
>         http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/mirrors/minnie.tuhs.org/
>
> It too can be mirrored with rsync.
>
>
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> - Nelson H. F. Beebe                    Tel: +1 801 581 5254
     -
> - University of Utah                    FAX: +1 801 581 4148
     -
> - Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB    Internet e-mail:
beebe at math.utah.edu  -
> - 155 S 1400 E RM 233                       beebe at acm.org
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> - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL:
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...and those are just the ones that have been baptized. i'm sorry, bad
joke. this is a really nice resource. thank you.
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[Nelson H. F. Beebe]

There is a complete bibliography of the journal Computing Systems
(1988--1996) here:

	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/compsys.bib
	[change .bib to .html for a version with hyperlinks]

Other journals about aspects of Unix include:

	Bell System Technical journal family (complete 1920--date)
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1920.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1930.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1940.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1950.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1960.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1970.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1980.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj1990.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj2000.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/bstj2010.bib

	Journal of C Language Translation (1989--1995)
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/jclt.bib

	Usenix conference proceedings and ";login" journal (incomplete)
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/usenix1980.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/usenix1990.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/usenix2000.bib
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/usenix2010.bib

	The X Resource: A Practical Journal of the X Window System (1991--1994)
		http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/xres.bib

There are also bibliographies of books about Unix, Linux, and the GNU
Project:

	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/gnu.bib
	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/linux.bib
	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/unix.bib

Finally, there is a small bibliography of the AT&/Princeton lcc
compiler:

	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/lcc.bib

There are more than 800 bibliographies in those archives with about
1.01 million entries.  Please mirror them to your site(s): mirror
instructions, overviews, and space requirements can be found at the
top-level sites

	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/
	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/bibnet/

The collections are active, and continuously enhanced and extended,
with dozens of files being updated or added weekly.  Using rsync for
mirroring is easy and fast, so nightly or weekly mirrors pose no
problem at either end of the connection.

There is also a TUHS mirror in Salt Lake City, Utah:

	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/mirrors/minnie.tuhs.org/

It too can be mirrored with rsync.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Nelson H. F. Beebe                    Tel: +1 801 581 5254                  -
- University of Utah                    FAX: +1 801 581 4148                  -
- Department of Mathematics, 110 LCB    Internet e-mail: beebe at math.utah.edu  -
- 155 S 1400 E RM 233                       beebe at acm.org  beebe at computer.org -
- Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe/ -
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[scj]

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I was on the Usenix board when we decided to stop publishing Computing
Systems.  One of the key problems, not yet mentioned, was that the
readership was too small.  Several very good papers went elsewhere because
the authors correctly felt that few people would see them if they
published in CS.  A related problem was that many university libraries
were reluctant to subscribe.  It seems that a certain critical mass is
necessary to make a journal viable, and we never quite got there with
CS...


> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Norman Wilson <norman at oclsc.org> wrote:
>
>> USENIX now makes all their conference papers available online,
>> free to anyone, except that only those registered for a
>> conference can read them before the conference actually happens.
>> That's not a bad substitute for a journal, I suppose.
>>
>
> ​Thank you Norman.​
>
> ​As President of USENIX during that choice, that is a legacy I am
> particularly proud.  It was a bit of a scary thing to do and so far ACM
> and
> IEEE have been loath to follow suite as completely (I suspect because the
> digital library is (was) a significant source of revenue for all three
> organizations).  [To be fair, there are some exceptions, I believe ACM
> Queue is downloadable - although I note that it is interesting a lot of
> people working on Queue are also USENIX folks some of whom may be lurking
> on this mailing list].
>
> For what ever its worth, just a month or so ago, I was very pleased to see
> my now Sr in college CS major daughter  -- who went to her first USENIX
> conference in 1993 in stroller -- just joined USENIX (maybe its a little
> like joining "the party").  But if USENIX is to continue their tradition
> of
> being open and freely accessible, I offer an unabashed advertisement (i.e
> no pay walls): like her and her college peers, please consider a USENIX
> membership and/or going to a conference or two.
>
>
> To Doug's question -- I agree that the answers about "Computing Systems"
> that have been given are pretty much to the mark.   It was not an
> insignificant undertaking to publish such a journal; and keeping
> it/dropping was a trade off.
>
> To all on the list, I can say that the Board has toyed with bring it back
> a
> couple of times when I was on it.   If any of you have thoughts on the
> matter, send them to the current Board of Directors ( bod at usenix.org )
> and/or the Executive Director:  Casey Henderson (execdir at usenix.org).
>
>
> Clem
> _______________________________________________
> TUHS mailing list
> TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
> https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs
>

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[Clem Cole]

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On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Norman Wilson <norman at oclsc.org> wrote:

> USENIX now makes all their conference papers available online,
> free to anyone, except that only those registered for a
> conference can read them before the conference actually happens.
> That's not a bad substitute for a journal, I suppose.
>

​Thank you Norman.​

​As President of USENIX during that choice, that is a legacy I am
particularly proud.  It was a bit of a scary thing to do and so far ACM and
IEEE have been loath to follow suite as completely (I suspect because the
digital library is (was) a significant source of revenue for all three
organizations).  [To be fair, there are some exceptions, I believe ACM
Queue is downloadable - although I note that it is interesting a lot of
people working on Queue are also USENIX folks some of whom may be lurking
on this mailing list].

For what ever its worth, just a month or so ago, I was very pleased to see
my now Sr in college CS major daughter  -- who went to her first USENIX
conference in 1993 in stroller -- just joined USENIX (maybe its a little
like joining "the party").  But if USENIX is to continue their tradition of
being open and freely accessible, I offer an unabashed advertisement (i.e
no pay walls): like her and her college peers, please consider a USENIX
membership and/or going to a conference or two.


To Doug's question -- I agree that the answers about "Computing Systems"
that have been given are pretty much to the mark.   It was not an
insignificant undertaking to publish such a journal; and keeping
it/dropping was a trade off.

To all on the list, I can say that the Board has toyed with bring it back a
couple of times when I was on it.   If any of you have thoughts on the
matter, send them to the current Board of Directors ( bod at usenix.org )
and/or the Executive Director:  Casey Henderson (execdir at usenix.org).


Clem
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[arnold]

norman at oclsc.org (Norman Wilson) wrote:

>   'skeeve' is my domain name. Robbins is my surname.
>
> Sorry about that; up too late with too many balls
> in the air (packing, finishing a tax return, listening
> to our provincial election results).

NP.

> At least I didn't further truncate it to skeev, as
> Ken might have done.

:-)

Arnold

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[Norman Wilson]

  'skeeve' is my domain name. Robbins is my surname.

Sorry about that; up too late with too many balls
in the air (packing, finishing a tax return, listening
to our provincial election results).

At least I didn't further truncate it to skeev, as
Ken might have done.

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[arnold]

norman at oclsc.org (Norman Wilson) wrote:

> Arnold Skeeve:

'skeeve' is my domain name. Robbins is my surname.

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[Norman Wilson]

Doug McIlroy:

> Does anyone know why [Computing Systems] folded?

Arnold Skeeve:

  ISTR that they simply ran out of content; they weren't getting
  enough submissions to keep it going, and journal production isn't
  an inexpensive undertaking.

======

That's what I remember too, though there may also have been
insufficient interest from the members.  The front matter
in the last issue suggests that.

Computing Systems was published from Winter 1988 to Fall 1996.
(More years than I'd have guessed, even looking at the physical
journals on my shelf; it was a quarterly.)  It would probably
not have lasted much longer no matter what, as the USENIX
community was likely in the forefront of putting papers online
on the World-Wide Web.

USENIX now makes all their conference papers available online,
free to anyone, except that only those registered for a
conference can read them before the conference actually happens.
That's not a bad substitute for a journal, I suppose.

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON

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[arnold]

Doug McIlroy <doug at cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> > ;login: is alive and well. 
>
> For a few years Usenix even published a refereed technical
> journal, "Computing Systems", quite different in tone from
> ;login:  It had some nice content.

I have the full set on a shelf in my basement.

> Does anyone know why it folded?

ISTR that they simply ran out of content; they weren't getting
enough submissions to keep it going, and journal production isn't
an inexpensive undertaking.

Arnold

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[Doug McIlroy]

> ;login: is alive and well. 

For a few years Usenix even published a refereed technical
journal, "Computing Systems", quite different in tone from
;login:  It had some nice content. Does anyone know why
it folded?

Doug

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[Norman Wilson]

Dan Cross:

  ... there were a few "journal" type
  magazines that also specialized in Unix-y things (e.g., ";login:" from
  USENIX; still published, I believe) ...

======

;login: is alive and well.  So is USENIX.  It's no longer
the UNIX user's group it started as many decades ago; the
focus has broadened to advanced computing and systems
research, though the descendants of UNIX are still prominent
in those areas.

For an old-fashioned programmer/systems hack/systems generalist
like me, it's still quite a worthwhile journal and a worthwhile
organization.  They've even been known to have a talk or two
about resurrecting old versions of UNIX.

I'm just off to the federation of medium-sized conferences
and workshops that has grown out of the former USENIX
Annual Technical Conference.  I'm looking forward to it.

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON

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[Deborah Scherrer]

Nope.   I was on those Boards.  That didn't happen.

Debbie

On 6/12/14 1:00 AM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrote:
> On Jun 12, 2014, at 5:38, Deborah Scherrer <dscherrer at solar.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>> The group met once a month at Chantilly,
>> a posh restaurant in Palo Alto.
> Reminds me of a story (might have been an urban legend) that someone
> was making money out of these diners.  He new when they where and
> in exchange for money he would introduce people to the celebrities.
>
> 	jaap

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[Jeff Johnson]

There is also SGI's Iris Universe, which was their in-house magazine. I have no idea when it started or ceased but I have quite a few of the early and mid 1990s issues that have really great articles and advertisements. 

I'll have to see if I can find them and scan them in to share.

--
Jeff Johnson
jhj at trnsz.com

> On Jun 11, 2014, at 11:59 PM, Dan Cross <crossd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There were several, starting I guess in the 80s mostly.  The one I remember in particular was "Unix Review", but there were a few "journal" type magazines that also specialized in Unix-y things (e.g., ";login:" from USENIX; still published, I believe), and several associated with particular vendors: "SunExpert" was one, if I recall correctly.
> 
> Occasionally, Unix and related things showed up in the "mainstream" consumer computer press of the time.  I can remember in particular an issue of "PC Magazine" (I think June of 1993) that ran a lengthy couple of articles proving machines from Sun and SGI, in addition to version of Unix that ran on PCs (interestingly, Linux was omitted despite really starting to capture a lot of the imagination in that space; similarly I don't recall any mention of BSD).
> 
> Some of these old magazines are definitely blasts from the past.
> 
>         - Dan C.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Sergey Lapin <slapinid at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi, all!
>> 
>> I've read recently published link to byte article and got an idea....
>> Was there a magazine related to UNIX systems in 70s-80s?
>> I had so much fun reading that Byte issue, even ads (especially ads!)
>> It is so fun...
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> TUHS mailing list
>> TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
>> https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs
> 
> _______________________________________________
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[Jaap Akkerhuis]

On Jun 12, 2014, at 5:38, Deborah Scherrer <dscherrer at solar.stanford.edu> wrote:

> The group met once a month at Chantilly,
> a posh restaurant in Palo Alto. 

Reminds me of a story (might have been an urban legend) that someone
was making money out of these diners.  He new when they where and
in exchange for money he would introduce people to the celebrities.

	jaap
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[Dan Cross]

There were several, starting I guess in the 80s mostly.  The one I remember
in particular was "Unix Review", but there were a few "journal" type
magazines that also specialized in Unix-y things (e.g., ";login:" from
USENIX; still published, I believe), and several associated with particular
vendors: "SunExpert" was one, if I recall correctly.

Occasionally, Unix and related things showed up in the "mainstream"
consumer computer press of the time.  I can remember in particular an issue
of "PC Magazine" (I think June of 1993) that ran a lengthy couple of
articles proving machines from Sun and SGI, in addition to version of Unix
that ran on PCs (interestingly, Linux was omitted despite really starting
to capture a lot of the imagination in that space; similarly I don't recall
any mention of BSD).

Some of these old magazines are definitely blasts from the past.

        - Dan C.



On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Sergey Lapin <slapinid at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, all!
>
> I've read recently published link to byte article and got an idea....
> Was there a magazine related to UNIX systems in 70s-80s?
> I had so much fun reading that Byte issue, even ads (especially ads!)
> It is so fun...
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUHS mailing list
> TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
> https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs
>
>
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[Nick Downing]

hehe my thoughts too..like a time machine :)
On 12/06/2014 1:11 PM, "Sergey Lapin" <slapinid at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, all!
>
> I've read recently published link to byte article and got an idea....
> Was there a magazine related to UNIX systems in 70s-80s?
> I had so much fun reading that Byte issue, even ads (especially ads!)
> It is so fun...
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUHS mailing list
> TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
> https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs
>
>
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[Deborah Scherrer]

Oh yes, there was Unix Review, and several others.  Unix Review was 
special in that
the editor chose to set up an Editorial Board by inviting key people in 
the Unix
field, e.g. John Mashey, Steve Bourne, etc., to direct and comment upon 
editorial content (in
a volunteer, as opposed to paid, fashion). The group met once a month at 
Chantilly,
a posh restaurant in Palo Alto.

Deborah


On 6/11/14 8:10 PM, Sergey Lapin wrote:
> Hi, all!
>
> I've read recently published link to byte article and got an idea....
> Was there a magazine related to UNIX systems in 70s-80s?
> I had so much fun reading that Byte issue, even ads (especially ads!)
> It is so fun...
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> TUHS mailing list
> TUHS at minnie.tuhs.org
> https://minnie.tuhs.org/mailman/listinfo/tuhs

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[Sergey Lapin]

Hi, all!

I've read recently published link to byte article and got an idea....
Was there a magazine related to UNIX systems in 70s-80s?
I had so much fun reading that Byte issue, even ads (especially ads!)
It is so fun...
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