From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: grog@lemis.com (Greg 'groggy' Lehey) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 09:36:18 +1100 Subject: [TUHS] Some notes on running UNIX v6 in 2015, using SimH and a healthy dose of documentation In-Reply-To: <1F998DC4-275F-4DE1-81F2-CC19BE714A7A@ronnatalie.com> References: <565F64A6.9080103@gmail.com> <20151203002042.GA7042@www.oztivo.net> <565FAADA.3040401@gmail.com> <565FC283.20704@gmail.com> <20151203060503.GB93851@server.rulingia.com> <20151204063819.GC58889@eureka.lemis.com> <20151204145218.GC24075@mercury.ccil.org> <1F998DC4-275F-4DE1-81F2-CC19BE714A7A@ronnatalie.com> Message-ID: <20151204223618.GA91061@eureka.lemis.com> On Friday, 4 December 2015 at 13:17:58 -0500, Ronald Natalie wrote: > > I guess you???re going to have to qualify that. It???s the oldest > ???surviving??? (though it???s unclear what that means to a computer > not running) STORED PROGRAM machine. Guilty as charged. > The ENIAC, which by some standards is the first programmable digital > computer still exists at the Smithsonian. Some of my coworkers there > were on the team that took it down from BRL to the Smithsonian and > actually tested it as operational when it was handed over to the > museum. I don???t think it???s ever been powered on since. My understanding, which is borne out by the Wikipedia article, is that only parts of ENIAC are on display at the Smithsonian. It lists a number of other places with parts. But then there's yet another computer, the Zuse Z4 at the Deutsches Museum in München. Again from Wikipedia, it was built between 1942 and 1945, and thus predates ENIAC. It seems that it's complete, but of course it's not electronic. So until proof of the contrary, CSIRAC is the oldest surviving complete electronic computer. Do I need more adjectives? Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog at FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: