From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: grog@lemis.com (Greg 'groggy' Lehey) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 10:49:39 +1100 Subject: [TUHS] etymology of cron In-Reply-To: <20151223160436.GB6677@mercury.ccil.org> <20151223133603.B1BFE440AE@lignose.oclsc.org> Message-ID: <20151223234939.GL14449@eureka.lemis.com> On Wednesday, 23 December 2015 at 11:04:36 -0500, John Cowan wrote: > Norman Wilson scripsit: > >> But I'd be satisfied if we could somehow stamp out the use of spurious >> references to support spurious claims. It occurs to me that there's a difference between stamping out the use and stamping out the reference. True story (at some level of truth): In the late 18th century a member of a European exploratory mission in Australia sees a strange animal jumping around. He turns to the aboriginal guard assigned to him and says "What's that animal?". Guard answers: "kangaroo" ("I don't understand what you're saying"). I've always taken this one to be a joke, but the Oxford English Dictionary picks it up and says: The common assertion that it really means 'I don't understand' (the supposed reply of the local to his questioner) seems to be of recent origin and lacks confirmation. (See Morris Austral English s.v.) And maybe this is the correct way to handle those references. Mention them and observe that they lack any substantiation. > I suppose you could get the original author(s) to print a retraction. I've been trying to find Phil Diacono, of whom you wouldn't expect many falso positives, but in fact there are two or three in Melbourne alone, none of whom seem to be the right one. In the meantime, help has come from an unlikely direction. As far as I can tell, it's nobody on this list, but there's no account behind the commit, just the IP address 2601:647:4001:bc00:c48d:fc08:b94c:dec2 It refers to an article by Kah Seng Tay at https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-etymology-of-cron , which appears undated (date "Wed"), but which goes into more detail and includes a copy of a message from Brian with essentially the same content as the one he sent to Doug. I've updated the page to note lack of substatiation in the alternative references. We're not done yet. Tedickey has once again tagged the entry with WP:RS. So a published document would still be a good idea. wkt: is it time for an informal "Proceedings of TUHS"? Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog at FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: