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From: grog@lemis.com (Greg 'groggy' Lehey)
Subject: [TUHS] Character sets
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:59:47 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160327215947.GT3766@eureka.lemis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56F8565C.3080704@update.uu.se>

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On Sunday, 27 March 2016 at 23:53:32 +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2016-03-27 23:49, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> On Sunday, 27 March 2016 at 13:47:43 +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> On 2016-03-27 13:29, John Cowan wrote:
>>>> Johnny Billquist scripsit:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-03-27 08:18, Greg 'groggy' Lehey<grog at lemis.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Isn't it wonderful that we no longer have issues with character
>>>>>> representation?
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope that comment was meant as a joke, ironic, cynical, or whatever...
>>>>
>>>> Undoubtedly.  But things *are* much better than they used to be:
>>>> we can now do everything within a single character set, and convert
>>>> only at the boundaries (and increasingly, only in one direction).
>>>
>>> Haha. Yes... Except that you now have multiple representations of each
>>> character within one character set. So what has improved???
>>
>> In the Good Old Days, characters were all the same size, and you could
>> do nice, simple things like
>>
>>    while (*c && *c++ != " ");
>>
>> Now you need a whole library to do the same thing.
>
> Another one I noted a while ago was that functions and command in Unix,
> such as lpq, which try to print things in nice columns now fail, because
> the code don't actually know how many characters have been output.
>
> And let's not even talk about such wonderful concepts as colors in the
> character set definition... Unicode seems to have it all... I wonder how
> many code points exist for 'A'. It's definitely more than one...

For some definition of A, of course.  In addition there's clearly at
least Α (0x391) and А (0x410).

Greg
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-27 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.169.1459059516.15972.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2016-03-27 10:09 ` [TUHS] Character sets (was: Command-line options) Johnny Billquist
2016-03-27 11:29   ` John Cowan
2016-03-27 11:47     ` [TUHS] Character sets Johnny Billquist
2016-03-27 21:49       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-03-27 21:53         ` Johnny Billquist
2016-03-27 21:59           ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey [this message]
2016-03-27 22:19             ` Johnny Billquist
2016-03-27 22:21             ` Charles Anthony
2016-03-27 23:23               ` Dave Horsfall
2016-03-28  0:20                 ` John Cowan
2016-03-28  1:02                   ` Dave Horsfall
2016-03-28  0:18               ` Johnny Billquist
2016-03-27 23:30           ` John Cowan
2016-03-27 23:56             ` Johnny Billquist
2016-03-28  1:54               ` John Cowan
2016-03-28  3:27               ` Steve Nickolas
2016-03-28  1:20             ` Random832
2016-03-28  1:58               ` John Cowan
2016-03-28  5:12                 ` Random832

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