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From: mascheck@in-ulm.de (Sven Mascheck)
Subject: [TUHS] environments/universes (was: Unix v6 problem with /tmp)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 01:16:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160728231639.GA299581@lisa.in-ulm.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2NymVJ=fxcwBUk3ObU_iwc+FieOXLpnt-d=PJwJuzdAeg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 04:57:47PM -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
> I created Conditionally Dependant Symlinks (CDSL) which I think only showed
> up in Masscomp's RTU, Stellix and Tru64.   The were not only late binding,
> but added the concept of a user settable context.   Very handy when trying
> to create a "single system image" from multiple system.

How did you implement it?

> Also, around the same time that Dennis added symlinks, Apollo's Aegis (aka
> Domain) guys came up with a cool idea where you can run application code
> from a link - extensible types.    I remember talking to Dennis and Ken
> about them at a SOSP IIRC, and toyed with putting them into one of the
> Locus UNIX Kernels.   We proposed it for HP-UX and Tru64, but never got
> funded to try it, although I think / believe others did some where else.

I just wonder if and how the following are related to the above two.

Sequent Dynix "universes" (idea picked up by Siemens Sinix) puts several
targets in one symlink. Example:

  ln -c ucb=.bin att=/usr/att/bin   /bin

and the actual resolving (and usage of different default PATHs)
is controlled by an environment variable, as far as I know
(s.a. http://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/various/universes/)

HP-UX 9 "context dependent files" (as early alternative to NFS) make use of
the set uid bit on directories and work like this,

  # mkdir /etc/inittab
  # chmod +H /etc/inittab
  # touch /etc/inittab+/node1 /etc/inittab+/default

By accessing /etc/inittab, node1 will see the file node1, other systems
will see default (s.a. http://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/various/permissions/)


> [...]
> You are right the BSD 4.2 made the world know about them but like
> a number of things in BSD (such as networking) it was in some
> cases a (better) integration of ideas others had played with before.

F.i. #! also got widely known in 4.2BSD but was suggested by DMR before 8th ed.

-Sven


  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-28 23:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-27 20:28 [TUHS] Unix v6 problem with /tmp Mark Longridge
2016-07-27 20:31 ` William Pechter
2016-07-27 20:57   ` Clem Cole
2016-07-27 21:01     ` Clem Cole
2016-07-27 21:10     ` William Pechter
2016-07-28  0:49       ` Clem cole
2016-07-28  1:03         ` William Pechter
2016-07-28 11:23           ` [TUHS] History repeating itself (was: Unix v6 problem with /tmp) Michael Kjörling
2016-07-28 12:18             ` Tony Finch
2016-07-28 13:57             ` John Cowan
2016-07-30  7:56               ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-07-30 11:41                 ` William Cheswick
2016-07-30 23:28                   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2016-07-30 23:50                     ` scj
2016-08-01 11:36                   ` Tony Finch
2016-07-30 14:15                 ` John Cowan
2016-07-30 15:30                   ` [TUHS] History repeating itself Michael Kjörling
2016-07-28  1:03       ` [TUHS] Unix v6 problem with /tmp Clem cole
2016-07-28 23:16     ` Sven Mascheck [this message]
2016-07-29  3:05       ` [TUHS] environments/universes (was: Unix v6 problem with /tmp) arnold
2016-07-29 14:14         ` Clem Cole
2016-07-29 13:55       ` Clem Cole

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