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From: arnold@skeeve.com (arnold@skeeve.com)
Subject: [TUHS] MacOS X is Unix (tm)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2017 03:06:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201701021006.v02A6dwf032366@freefriends.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02d201d2642f$2bcfe0d0$836fa270$@ronnatalie.com>

"Ron Natalie" <ron at ronnatalie.com> wrote:

> OS/X (Mac) is Mach-derived   I think you do it a disservice to call it
> BSD-derived.    While the kernel-to-application interface was compatible
> with 4.2 BSD, the kernel is largely of CMU's only creation.
>
> The thing came layered with Doug Gwyn's (where is he? I invited him) BRL SV
> on BSD user environment to silence the critics that it wasn't SVID
> compatible.    I hadn't even realized it until I got a few Mach kerneled
> machines (notably our NeXT cube) and found that it had my version of the
> Bourne shell with job control and command line editing hacked in (to battle
> the tcsh guys at BRL because I detested the csh syntax and Korn's shell
> hadn't gotten out of the labs yet at that point).
>

I remember Ron's job control stuff. I even backported it to the BSD v7
Bourne shell and posted it to one of the sources groups.

I don't remember a history mechanism by Ron, but I do remember one that I
did; it was very csh style.  I don't think tcsh was around then. This
is ~ 1984-1986 time frame.

Ron - can you give more detail about your history mechanism?

Thanks,

Arnold


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-02 10:06 UTC|newest]

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2016-12-31 23:00   ` Kurt H Maier
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2017-01-01  0:43                                                   ` Nick Downing
2017-01-01 10:26                                                     ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-01-01 13:01                                                       ` Ron Natalie
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2017-01-01 13:56                                                         ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-01-01 19:33                                                           ` David
2017-01-01 20:12                                                             ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-01-03 14:11                                                               ` David
2017-01-01 20:28                                                             ` Kurt H Maier
2017-01-01 20:38                                                               ` Larry McVoy
2017-01-03 13:17                                                                 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-03 15:52                                                                   ` [TUHS] ZFS (was: Re: MacOS X is Unix (tm)) Michael Kjörling
2017-01-03 16:41                                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-03 18:20                                                                   ` [TUHS] MacOS X is Unix (tm) Larry McVoy
2017-01-06 12:56                                                                     ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-02 10:06                                                         ` arnold [this message]
2017-01-02 11:34                                                           ` Ron Natalie
2017-01-02 12:24                                                             ` arnold
2017-01-02 16:42                                                             ` Chet Ramey
2017-01-01 13:28                                                     ` Michael Kjörling
2017-01-02 11:31   ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-02 16:32     ` Nemo
2017-01-02 16:53       ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-02 16:44     ` Chet Ramey
2017-01-02 16:49       ` Larry McVoy
2017-01-02 17:02         ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-02 17:05         ` Chet Ramey
2017-01-02 17:32           ` Larry McVoy
2017-01-02 17:53             ` Chet Ramey
2017-01-02 17:37           ` Christian Neukirchen
2017-01-03 14:06     ` David
2017-01-03 14:33       ` Random832
2017-01-03 15:08         ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-03 16:09           ` Derek Fawcus
2017-01-03 16:47             ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-03 17:29           ` Random832
2017-01-03 17:51             ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-03 14:49       ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-03 17:39         ` David
2017-01-03 17:59           ` Derek Fawcus
2017-01-03 18:04           ` Joerg Schilling
2017-01-03 18:32             ` Ron Natalie
2017-01-03 18:33             ` Clem Cole
2017-01-03 18:35               ` Clem Cole
2017-01-03 18:45               ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-11  6:35                 ` jsteve
2017-03-11 15:36                   ` Derrik Walker v2.0
2017-03-11 16:33                   ` Paul Winalski
2017-01-03 22:31             ` Random832

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