From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: lm@mcvoy.com (Larry McVoy) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 19:13:28 -0800 Subject: [TUHS] SunOS vs Linux In-Reply-To: References: <20170107025829.GH99823@eureka.lemis.com> Message-ID: <20170107031328.GJ16253@mcvoy.com> On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 08:09:18PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > On Friday, 6 January 2017 at 9:27:36 -0500, Clem Cole wrote: > >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Dan Cross wrote: > >> > >>> Perhaps an interesting area of speculation is, "what would the world have > >>> looked like if USL v BSDi hadn't happened *and* SunOS was opened to the > >>> world?" I think in that parallel universe, Linux wouldn't have made it > >>> particularly far: absent the legal angle, what would the incentive had been > >>> to work on something that was striving to basically be Unix, when really > >>> good Unix was already available? > >> > >>> I agree. > > > > I think that if SunOS 4 had been released to the world at the right > > time, the free BSDs wouldn't have happened in the way they did either; > > they would have evolved intimately coupled with SunOS. > > With the right license (BSD), I'd go so far as to saying there'd be no > BSD 4.4, or if there was, it would have been rebased from the SunOS > base... There were discussions between CSRG and Sun about Sun donating > it's reworked VM and VFS to Berkeley to replace the Mach VM that was > in there... Don't know the scope of these talks, or if they included > any of the dozens of other areas that Sun improved from its BSD 4.3 > base... The talks fell apart over the value of the code, if the rumors > I've heard are correct. So as much as I know, I was not privy to these talks. I didn't even know they were happening.