From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: steffen@sdaoden.eu (Steffen Nurpmeso) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:24:25 +0100 Subject: [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other In-Reply-To: <20170221120218.E07BA18C10B@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> References: <20170221120218.E07BA18C10B@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: <20170221122425._PTIq%steffen@sdaoden.eu> jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) wrote: |So there is a question here, though, and I'm curious to see what others who |were closer to the action think. Why _did_ Linux succeed, and not a Unix |derivative? (Is there any work which looks at this question? Some Linux |history? If not, there should be.) Likely this can at least in parts be explained with human behaviour and social movement. It was new, it was fresh, the early postings of Linus Torvalds give a clear impression that he wants to get out and rise and get this thing done. His thing was completely baggage-free (means something, just listen [1]) and everybody was welcome to take part and make this something one can be prowd of. Or nearby that. And it has grown a very, very large codebase. Just yesterday: ?0[steffen at wales ]$ sysctl hw.ncpu sysctl: cannot stat /proc/sys/hw/ncpu: No such file or directory Then again i wildly guess and find this is to be a GNU problem. And: you don't have to write a good documentation, or any at all. I will _never_ forget once i came from SUSE, then RedHat and Halloween Linux to FreeBSD the first time, with all that grown infrastructure, also that in /usr/share/doc and /usr/share/misc, that was nothing but an enlightenment to me. Plan9 i didn't know at all until three or so years ago, there you also have nice documentation (and if you include doc.cat-v.org). You are a student, you have no girl friend, you don't have much money, saturday nights are long and boring, and there you can get something really great going, can be creative and get some self-fulfilment, and communicate with others all over the world which all pull together. That is pretty cool -- and the result really was, too, even before IBM and such spent billions of dollars to improve it even further. About, i don't know, 16 or so years later?, Linux is still free software, and it has not be torn in pieces due to all the interests: i think that really is a great achievement, and likely that the person Linus Torvalds is not innocent at it. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45OhGdzcEFk --steffen