From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: lm@mcvoy.com (Larry McVoy) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 20:11:37 -0800 Subject: [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other In-Reply-To: <20170222040629.GN9439@mcvoy.com> References: <20170221120218.E07BA18C10B@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <20170221164728.GZ20341@mcvoy.com> <20170222031836.GH9439@mcvoy.com> <20170222040629.GN9439@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: <20170222041137.GO9439@mcvoy.com> On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 08:06:29PM -0800, Larry McVoy wrote: > The open source BSD stuff was a train wreck from the very beginning. > Nobody could get along with Jolitz, so NetBSD started, then Theo wanted > to be in charge of something so OpenBSD was born. I can't remember how > FreeBSD got spun out, but what I do remember is that there were power > struggles from day 1. Oh, and I forgot, then there was the BSDi group. While we all loved those guys, they left a sour taste. There was some bad blood between them and Jolitz (he unfairly got the short end of that stick). And as Clem says, we all wanted a free or really really cheap Unix and these guys wanted $995 for a release. I think a lot of us felt like they sort of betrayed the ethos of Unix, we wanted free like it was when you got a tape from dmr (no, I never got one, just got to hear the stories and they sounded great). The whole BSD thing in the early 90's was a train wreck. In my opinion.