From: lm@mcvoy.com (Larry McVoy)
Subject: [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 20:17:34 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170222041734.GP9439@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEoi9W6O0nN2O8LmiogkkpJ5YpTOBjum557O_K2FDj16gu7PsQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 11:07:20PM -0500, Dan Cross wrote:
> I can say from first-hand experience that it was NOT easy to get access to
> Unix source code there. The cadre of university system administrators that
> formed something of a cabal did not hand it out lightly, and it took
> significant time to gain the sort of trust that would result in you getting
> access to it. I strongly suspect that if a random CS student had written to
> UCB asking for access to the BSD source code, and that had gotten back to
> the aforementioned cabal, it would not have gone well for the student. Lots
> of intrusive questions would have been asked; angry letters written and
> placed into files. Uncomfortable meetings with academic advisors and the
> university computer security officer would have taken place. Questions of
> academic malfeasance or expulsion may have come up, etc.
My experience at UWisc-Madison, during the time they were working on
4.3-Uwisc, matches Dan's pretty well. Yup, source was there. Access
was restricted, you had to get a login on slovax, and you had to be
"somebody" to get that login. I don't remember how I got access,
I just knew I wanted it. So I probably just begged and eventually
one of the admins took pity on me? Dunno.
I don't think it was like what Clem says for most people. Clem went
to CMU if I remember correctly, that puts him in a pretty elite class
right there. I can easily imagine that the CMU CS department let all
their students have access to the source if they wanted it. I don't
think that was anywhere near as common as Clem thinks it was. My guess
is that Clem interacted with a bunch of people who were his peers (aka
pretty elite people) and all those guys had source access. Us unwashed
masses had to work a lot harder to get it.
Once 386BSD came out, yeah, source was easy. Not before.
Even when I was at Sun the historic source was there, v7, 32v, etc., but
you had to get past Shannon to get at it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-22 4:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-21 12:02 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 12:24 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-02-21 12:57 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-21 15:02 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 1:50 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-22 2:25 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-22 3:11 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 4:07 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-22 4:17 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2017-02-23 15:31 ` Nemo
2017-02-23 16:00 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-23 16:50 ` Nemo
2017-02-23 22:02 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-24 1:30 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-24 20:54 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-24 1:01 ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-22 10:16 ` jsteve
2017-02-21 15:15 ` Chet Ramey
2017-02-21 16:47 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 18:58 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-21 19:21 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 20:17 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-21 20:28 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 20:32 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-21 22:58 ` Wesley Parish
2017-02-22 1:19 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 1:35 ` [TUHS] Sun NFS version 2.0 Arthur Krewat
2017-02-22 1:46 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-22 13:33 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-23 23:48 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-24 7:47 ` arnold
2017-02-22 2:07 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-22 13:25 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-22 3:17 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 8:43 ` arnold
2017-02-24 20:57 ` Warren Toomey
2017-02-24 22:09 ` Warren Toomey
2017-02-26 10:50 ` Josh Good
2017-02-22 9:00 ` [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other jsteve
2017-02-22 0:52 ` Andy Kosela
2017-02-22 1:04 ` ron minnich
2017-02-22 1:33 ` jason-tuhs
2017-02-22 3:18 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 3:45 ` ron minnich
2017-02-22 4:06 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 4:11 ` Larry McVoy
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-02-26 18:33 Norman Wilson
2017-02-28 20:26 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-02-22 3:51 Rudi Blom
2017-02-22 1:22 Rudi Blom
2017-02-22 3:08 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-21 21:49 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 23:10 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-21 23:14 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-02-21 16:25 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-21 4:16 Doug McIlroy
2017-02-20 6:38 Rudi Blom
2017-02-19 5:48 Jason Stevens
2017-02-17 16:55 Noel Chiappa
2017-02-17 20:04 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-17 15:47 Atindra Chaturvedi
2017-02-16 7:28 [TUHS] Mushi and Bagu Rudi Blom
2017-02-16 9:36 ` jsteve
2017-02-16 10:42 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-16 13:49 ` Rudi Blom
2017-02-17 11:30 ` [TUHS] Mach for i386 / Mt Xinu or other jsteve
2017-02-17 14:22 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-17 16:13 ` Chet Ramey
2017-02-17 14:29 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-17 17:23 ` Warner Losh
2017-02-18 22:25 ` Nemo
2017-02-19 6:20 ` jsteve
2017-02-19 7:01 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-19 13:46 ` Jason Stevens
2017-02-19 15:44 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 18:14 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-20 22:24 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 23:16 ` Steve Johnson
2017-02-20 23:18 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-20 23:25 ` Steve Johnson
2017-02-20 23:20 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 0:12 ` Wesley Parish
2017-02-21 1:05 ` Steve Nickolas
2017-02-21 10:30 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 13:47 ` Random832
2017-02-21 15:18 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 15:54 ` Diomidis Spinellis
2017-02-21 16:38 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-21 16:48 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 16:32 ` Random832
2017-02-21 16:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 17:10 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-21 19:44 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-21 21:17 ` Dan Cross
2017-02-21 21:37 ` Larry McVoy
2017-02-22 8:57 ` jsteve
2017-02-22 9:56 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-02-22 10:26 ` jsteve
2017-02-22 10:29 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-02-19 21:19 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-20 0:29 ` Nick Downing
2017-02-20 1:58 ` Clem Cole
2017-02-20 1:29 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-02-19 22:59 ` Derek Fawcus
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