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From: aap@papnet.eu (Angelo Papenhoff)
Subject: [TUHS] Source code abundance?
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 07:52:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170307065259.GA31628@indra.papnet.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2PAkyquuRWu+_bRe3yNc-Lp6OxyR6bJSZfhcdT5GzKUEA@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/03/17, Clem Cole wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Joerg Schilling <schily at schily.net> wrote:
> 
> >
> > The kernel definitely looks like it was written from scratch.
> >
> > The fact that there are functions like "issig()" make it obvious that the
> > authors did have access to at least the V6 kernel via the Lions book.
> 
> 
> I can say for a fact that is not how it was.   AIX was a port starting
> with AT&T code originally targeted to run on DEC and Intel Systems.
> 
> As I said previously when I ran down the history of AIX, the developers had
> AT&T licenses.   As I was reminded in an off line discussion with one of
> the IBM guys when I was checking to make sure, ISC did the original 386
> port for all of AT&T, Intel and IBM (one port - 3 checks).  ISC also
> started the AIX port, with a number of the folks moving to LCC which was a
> step I left out in my previous email sorry, since it was implied when I
> said they started with that AT&T 386 stuff (which AT&T got from ISC).
> Bottom line.... it was not a rewrite, it was always a port.
> 
> ...
> 
> Companies like DEC, HP and IBM start working with one version of the kernel
> or worse yet, the command system and enhance it as they need.   But time
> moves forward and their version and the rest of the world start to become
> different (branch/fork).   Linux has been mostly able to keep the kernel
> the same, but not the command system.

I find this hard to believe. Of course code evolves, but I don't really
see anything that looks like original UNIX code in AIX 4.1.3. I would
expect at least a slight semblance. Had they really replaced (almost?)
all code by the time of AIX 4?

aap


  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-07  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-01 18:01 Arthur Krewat
2017-03-01 18:07 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-01 18:13 ` Henry Bent
2017-03-01 18:27   ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-01 19:18     ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-01 19:25       ` Henry Bent
2017-03-01 19:29         ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-01 19:32           ` Henry Bent
2017-03-01 19:49           ` Random832
2017-03-01 19:51             ` Warner Losh
2017-03-01 20:18             ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-01 20:28           ` Clem Cole
2017-03-01 20:32             ` Warner Losh
2017-03-02 13:55             ` Paul Ruizendaal
2017-03-02 14:15               ` Jim Capp
2017-03-02  1:22 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-02  6:50   ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-02 13:36     ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-04  3:29 ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-04 12:51   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-03-06 15:33 ` Angelo Papenhoff
2017-03-06 15:57   ` ron minnich
2017-03-06 16:20     ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-06 22:52       ` Clem Cole
2017-03-07  6:52         ` Angelo Papenhoff [this message]
2017-03-07 13:25           ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 16:21     ` Dan Cross
2017-03-06 16:45       ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-06 20:50         ` Dave Horsfall
2017-03-07 15:07           ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-07 15:13             ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-07 15:28               ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-07 19:44                 ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-06 18:00       ` ron minnich
2017-03-06 18:22         ` Dan Cross
2017-03-06 19:24         ` Nemo
2017-03-06 16:48     ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 15:57   ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 22:29     ` ron minnich
2017-03-06 22:59       ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 23:31         ` Steve Johnson
2017-03-06 23:32           ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-06 23:44             ` Steve Johnson
2017-03-06 23:48               ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-06 23:53                 ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-07  0:42             ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-07  0:33           ` Random832
2017-03-07  0:50         ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06 16:19   ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-06 19:06     ` Paul Ruizendaal
2017-03-06 20:32       ` ron minnich
2017-03-06 19:36     ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-06 20:17       ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-06 22:19         ` Warren Toomey
2017-03-03 20:06 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-03 20:28 ` Clem Cole
2017-03-03 23:12   ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-03 23:56   ` Wesley Parish
2017-03-04  0:29     ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-04  1:01     ` Henry Bent
     [not found]       ` <CAH1jEzZPonQuq_4YJWN=cpaB9J8q2+TU-zRWx+Bg+29SUvfOVQ@mail.gmail.com>
2017-03-04  3:23         ` Nick Downing
2017-03-04 10:04   ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-04 16:28     ` Clem Cole
2017-03-04 16:34       ` Clem Cole
2017-03-05 19:15       ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-05 19:25         ` Warner Losh
2017-03-05 19:55           ` Clem Cole
2017-03-06  9:35             ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-06  0:13         ` Josh Good
2017-03-05 15:44     ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-05 18:26       ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-05 18:55         ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-05 19:10           ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-05 21:36             ` Larry McVoy
2017-03-05 22:03               ` Mutiny 
2017-03-04 15:39 Noel Chiappa
2017-03-04 16:02 ` Jason Stevens
2017-03-04 17:53 ` Jacob Goense
2017-03-04 18:37   ` Steve Nickolas
2017-03-04 18:38     ` Ron Natalie
2017-03-04 20:39   ` Cory Smelosky
2017-03-04 21:05     ` Jacob Goense
2017-03-05 17:54 ` Joerg Schilling
2017-03-05 18:24   ` Mutiny 
2017-03-08 12:26 Doug McIlroy

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