[TUHS] B-news source code

[TUHS] B-news source code

[Doug McIlroy]

> Wouldn't [> in quoted mail] have happened first in email, like Mail or mailx?

Mailx doesn't do it now, so it probably didn't do it then.

doug

[TUHS] B-news source code

[Steffen Nurpmeso]

Doug McIlroy <doug at cs.dartmouth.edu> wrote:
 |> Wouldn't [> in quoted mail] have happened first in email, like Mail \
 |> or mailx?
 |
 |Mailx doesn't do it now, so it probably didn't do it then.

It seems to have entered Mail not before 1988, when Edward Wang
replaced the fixed "\t" prefix with a "tabstr" variable (he
credits Tom Newcomb, newcomb at arpa, for this).  In 1989 he
changed "tabstr" to "indentprefix" and quotes "to be Sun
compatible".

--steffen

[TUHS] C-news is built

[Warren Toomey]

OK, Geoff Collyer has built the C-News binaries for the 4.2 emulated
systems. They are temporarily at http://minnie.tuhs.org/Y5/Cnews/

Does someone want to try and get them up and running on an emulated system?

Also, I've build a 4.3BSD version of the emulated uucp systems. It's a
separate branch at https://github.com/DoctorWkt/4bsd-uucp. You can get it
by doing:

git clone https://github.com/DoctorWkt/4bsd-uucp.git \
	--branch 4.3BSD --single-branch

Once it's solid enough I will make this the default branch, but I'll
leave the 4.2BSD branch there as well.

Thanks Geoff!
	Warren
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[TUHS] B-news source code

[Mary Ann Horton]

Where can I find source code for various versions of netnews?

In particular I'm looking for B news 2.10.1.

A historian is trying to track down where the ">" was first used in 
quoting news or email.  It's not in 2.10 (I do have that source code) 
but I suspect it's in 2.10.1.

If anyone recalls where this originated, please let me know.

Thanks!

   Mary Ann

[TUHS] B-news source code

[Larry McVoy]

Wouldn't this have happened first in email, like Mail or mailx?
Hard to say, I'd guess sometime in the 1980's?

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 04:05:56PM -0800, Mary Ann Horton wrote:
> Where can I find source code for various versions of netnews?
> 
> In particular I'm looking for B news 2.10.1.
> 
> A historian is trying to track down where the ">" was first used in quoting
> news or email.  It's not in 2.10 (I do have that source code) but I suspect
> it's in 2.10.1.
> 
> If anyone recalls where this originated, please let me know.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>   Mary Ann

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Larry McVoy            	     lm at mcvoy.com             http://www.mcvoy.com/lm 

[TUHS] B-news source code

[Mary Ann Horton]

So you'd think, but it appears it came first in netnews. Mail/mailx has 
~m which indents with a tab, not a ">".  Most likely in summer of 1983, 
between 2.10 and 2.10.1.


On 03/10/2017 04:15 PM, Larry McVoy wrote:
> Wouldn't this have happened first in email, like Mail or mailx?
> Hard to say, I'd guess sometime in the 1980's?
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 04:05:56PM -0800, Mary Ann Horton wrote:
>> Where can I find source code for various versions of netnews?
>>
>> In particular I'm looking for B news 2.10.1.
>>
>> A historian is trying to track down where the ">" was first used in quoting
>> news or email.  It's not in 2.10 (I do have that source code) but I suspect
>> it's in 2.10.1.
>>
>> If anyone recalls where this originated, please let me know.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>    Mary Ann

[TUHS] B-news source code

[Dan Cross]

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Mary Ann Horton <mah at mhorton.net> wrote:

> So you'd think, but it appears it came first in netnews. Mail/mailx has ~m
> which indents with a tab, not a ">".  Most likely in summer of 1983,
> between 2.10 and 2.10.1.


Wasn't it possible to customize this in .mailrc? Something like, `set
indentprefix="> "`? I'm afraid that doesn't answer the question, but I'm
not sure mailx/Mail as the vector is unreasonable. Is it possible someone
coming from the ARPAnet mailing list world found Unix and brought the
practice in? I'm curious what the standard was on ITS or TOPS-20, for
instance.

        - Dan C.
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[TUHS] B-news source code

[Warren Toomey]

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 04:05:56PM -0800, Mary Ann Horton wrote:
> Where can I find source code for various versions of netnews?
> In particular I'm looking for B news 2.10.1.

2.10.3 is at http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/Applications/News/bnews.tar.gz

Looks like 2.10.1 is at
http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2.9BSD/usr/contrib/news/

Cheers, Warren
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