From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: lm@mcvoy.com (Larry McVoy)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:20:29 -0700
Subject: [TUHS] SunOS 4 documentation
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On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:13:33PM -0400, Toby Thain wrote:
> On 2017-04-12 7:31 PM, Larry McVoy wrote:
> >All done in troff I believe.  Though not for long, I think they switched
> >to framemaker around then.
> >
> >Whoops, I'm wrong, I looked, that's clearly framemaker.  Sigh.  I love me
> >some troff, even to this day.  I really really really wish that someone
> >had done framemaker, word, whatever, that was the GUI interface that had
> >troff under the covers.  Why?  Because you can version control the source
> 
> You can get really really close to that dream with TeX based tools like LyX,
> etc (and indeed Blue Sky Research had a wysiwyg TeX system back in the late
> 1980s).

I know, my dad wrote a book with Blue Sky Research's stuff.

> While troff can get stuff done in its area, for heavy duty work and exacting
> typography, TeX's markup blows troff out of the water, I am afraid.

I'd like to learn more about that.  I'd done a ton of stuff in troff,
had to do a paper recently in LaTex and I did not find it at all better.
It was a technical paper, usual stuff, text and tables and figures
and references.  I'm not great at LaTex so maybe it's just my bias
but I really like troff.  In fairness, I like groff, I got James to hack
some stuff into pic for me.  

But it started with troff.  I still remember walking out of the computer
science bookstore with a copy of the troff manual.  That was sort of my
introduction to Unix and it fits.

> --Toby
> (typesetter/typographer/TeX porter)
> 
> >and diffs will actually make sense.  Best of luck doing that with any
> >GUI editor.
> >
> >On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 03:55:30PM -0700, Cory Smelosky wrote:
> >>Found it.
> >>
> >>http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/sun/sunos/4.1/800-3805-10A_System_and_Network_Administration_199003.pdf
> >>
> >>On Wed, Apr 12, 2017, at 14:54, Cory Smelosky wrote:
> >>>All,
> >>>
> >>>Does anyone have SunOS 4 documentation?
> >>>
> >>>I am trying to properly configure UUCP and I am unable to find proper
> >>>documentation.
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>  Cory Smelosky
> >>>  b4 at gewt.net
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>  Cory Smelosky
> >>  b4 at gewt.net
> >

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