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From: steffen@sdaoden.eu (Steffen Nurpmeso)
Subject: [TUHS] TeX/troff/typesetting markups - Re: SunOS 4 documentation
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 01:22:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170413232259.53GdF%steffen@sdaoden.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f4719263-cbbe-f75a-e3ba-3826bec9d8af@telegraphics.com.au>

Toby Thain <toby at telegraphics.com.au> wrote:
 |On 2017-04-13 9:41 AM, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
 |> ...
 |> i have no idea of what happened on the TeX side in the last, say,
 |> about 15 years.  TeXLive has always been too large for me, i have
 |
 |They have a small "basic" version with the essentials, a hundred 
 |megabytes or so.
 |
 |http://www.tug.org/mactex/morepackages.html

Oh, ok, now MacTeX basic, 110 MB.  That is really much, much
better, for me, that is.  I never used TeX since then, so i cannot
really tell -- my KerTeX repo ball is 11 MB..

  ...
 |> My finding is that, with groff, i can produce papers (mostly
 |> letters) of almost identical beauty with some fine-tuning, with
 |> almost the identical number of "markup" (which is now also easily
 |> typed with the american keyboard).  And the fine-tuning i like,
 |> because i adore the calligraphic as an art, as an act of devotion
 |> of the calligrapher, to some higher spirit or the being as such,
 |> and spending some seconds in some text is my simple Boche
 |> equivalence to those fine spirits.
 |
 |Indeed, as a typographer, I believe details matter, no matter what the 
 |audience. I think Knuth feels the same way. :)

It is really perfectly looking.  Maybe too perfect, in the
sense of, maybe even aseptic.  At least when having handmade,
artistic calligraphy as a personal optimum.  But this is of course
strange for business letters, and doesn't excuse irregular holes
in between words all over the page, as can be seen in
non-optimized roff.

--steffen


  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-13 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-12 21:54 [TUHS] " Cory Smelosky
2017-04-12 22:55 ` Cory Smelosky
2017-04-12 23:31   ` Larry McVoy
2017-04-13  2:13     ` Toby Thain
2017-04-13  2:16       ` Steve Nickolas
2017-04-13  2:25         ` [TUHS] TeX/troff/typesetting markups - " Toby Thain
2017-04-13 14:25           ` Nemo
2017-04-13 15:41           ` Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
2017-04-13 16:35           ` Toby Thain
2017-04-13  2:20       ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2017-04-13 13:41         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-04-13 15:40           ` [TUHS] TeX/troff/typesetting markups - " Toby Thain
2017-04-13 23:22             ` Steffen Nurpmeso [this message]
2017-04-14  0:40               ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-04-14  1:59                 ` Nemo
2017-04-14  3:00                   ` Toby Thain
2017-04-14  2:59                 ` Toby Thain
2017-04-14 13:38                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-04-14 13:56                   ` Michael Kerpan
2017-04-14 16:55                     ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-04-14 22:24                     ` Toby Thain
     [not found]                       ` <CAHfSdrVAnPn3hwFR0ie0o-yuqGX0hu+LWweNZngpoY4=efTSaA@mail.gmail.com>
2017-04-15 14:23                         ` Michael Kerpan
2017-04-15 15:09                           ` Toby Thain
2017-04-15 16:07                           ` [TUHS] TeX/troff/typesetting markups - " Mutiny 
2017-04-15 21:48                             ` Dave Horsfall
2017-04-15 22:12                               ` ron minnich
2017-04-16  0:02                                 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-04-15 15:27                       ` [TUHS] TeX/troff/typesetting markups - " Clem Cole
2017-04-15 17:05                         ` Toby Thain
2017-04-15 17:10                         ` Toby Thain
2017-04-18  4:49                         ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-04-14 13:07             ` Wolfgang Helbig
2017-04-14 20:56               ` Clem Cole
2017-04-16 13:42               ` Tim Bradshaw
2017-04-13 14:14         ` [TUHS] " Nemo
2017-04-13 16:34           ` Steve Simon
2017-04-13 23:14             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-04-14  8:30               ` Steve Simon
2017-04-14 13:21                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-04-13 13:28       ` John Labovitz
2017-04-17 18:56 [TUHS] TeX/troff/typesetting markups - " Doug McIlroy

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