From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: mascheck@in-ulm.de (Sven Mascheck) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:02:24 +0200 Subject: [TUHS] Bourne shell and comments In-Reply-To: <20170418204834.GA22198@minnie.tuhs.org> References: <20170418204834.GA22198@minnie.tuhs.org> Message-ID: <20170419210224.GA701493@lisa.in-ulm.de> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 06:48:34AM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote: > I was trying to configure C news on 2.9BSD today and I found that its > Bourne shell doesn't grok # comments. The Bourne shell in 2.11BSD does. > > So I thought: when did the Bourne (and other) shells first grok # as > indicating a comment? Was this in response to #! being added to the > kernel, or was it the other way around? And was the choice of #! > arbitrary, or was it borrowed from somewhere else? > > Datum point: 2.9BSD's kernel can recognise #!, but the sh can't recognise #. Dennis' email about #! to Berkeley is dated Jan 10 '80. I've never seen any hint, how the bang in #! was chosen. Looks racy at least.. #! on BSDs was available as compile time option in 4.0BSD (~Oct '80?) and default on 4.2BSD (~Sep '83). BTW, AFAIK, the #! implementation in 2.8BSD (compile time option) is not from research but seems to come from U.S. Geological Survey, Menlo Park. The BSD csh hack in sh&csh (# special as first character in a file, service.c), came with 3BSD, also in '80. I found # as comment character in the BSD-sh first in CSRG 4.1.snap (~Apr '81, word.c). And at Bell Labs, as mentioned, it came with SysIII, also ~81. BTW, 4.3BSD ('86), and thus 2.10 BSD, brought an interesting change: # is only recognized in non-interactive mode. In interactive mode you actually get this: $ # echo x #: not found This was not changed in 4BSD until sh was replaced by ash in 4.3 Net/2. Sven -- https://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/bourne/ https://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/various/shebang/