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From: steffen@sdaoden.eu (Steffen Nurpmeso)
Subject: [TUHS] Bourne shell and comments
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 00:07:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170419220728.H4VbN%steffen@sdaoden.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170419210224.GA701493@lisa.in-ulm.de>

Sven Mascheck <mascheck at in-ulm.de> wrote:
 |On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 06:48:34AM +1000, Warren Toomey wrote:
 |> I was trying to configure C news on 2.9BSD today and I found that its
 |> Bourne shell doesn't grok # comments. The Bourne shell in 2.11BSD does.
 |> 
 |> So I thought: when did the Bourne (and other) shells first grok # as
 |> indicating a comment? Was this in response to #! being added to the
 |> kernel, or was it the other way around? And was the choice of #!
 |> arbitrary, or was it borrowed from somewhere else?
 |> 
 |> Datum point: 2.9BSD's kernel can recognise #!, but the sh can't recognise \
 |> #.
 |
 |Dennis' email about #! to Berkeley is dated Jan 10 '80.
 |I've never seen any hint, how the bang in #! was chosen. Looks racy \
 |at least..
 |#! on BSDs was available as compile time option in 4.0BSD (~Oct '80?)
 |and default on 4.2BSD (~Sep '83).
 |BTW, AFAIK, the #! implementation in 2.8BSD (compile time option) is not
 |from research but seems to come from U.S. Geological Survey, Menlo Park.
 |
 |The BSD csh hack in sh&csh (# special as first character in a file, \
 |service.c),
 |came with 3BSD, also in '80.
 |
 |I found # as comment character in the BSD-sh first in CSRG 4.1.snap
 |(~Apr '81, word.c). And at Bell Labs, as mentioned, it came with SysIII, \
 |also ~81.
 |BTW, 4.3BSD ('86), and thus 2.10 BSD, brought an interesting change:
 |# is only recognized in non-interactive mode. In interactive mode
 |you actually get this:
 |  $ # echo x
 |  #: not found
 |This was not changed in 4BSD until sh was replaced by ash in 4.3 Net/2.

Hmm.  Kurt Shoens added # as a null() saying "The do nothing
command for comments." before that (2BSD, file copyright 1979).

--steffen


  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-19 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-18 20:48 Warren Toomey
2017-04-18 20:51 ` Ron Natalie
2017-04-18 21:45   ` Grant Taylor
2017-04-18 22:16     ` Ron Natalie
2017-04-18 22:40       ` Toby Thain
2017-04-19 18:36     ` Stephen Kitt
2017-04-19 20:35       ` Arthur Krewat
2017-04-19  0:50   ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2017-04-19  8:35     ` Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
2017-04-19 16:31     ` Grant Taylor
2017-04-19 16:59       ` Andreas Kusalananda Kähäri
2017-04-19 17:36       ` Bakul Shah
2017-04-19 17:59         ` Grant Taylor
2017-04-20 20:13   ` Clem Cole
2017-04-20 20:17     ` Chet Ramey
2017-04-21  3:28     ` arnold
2017-04-21  3:43       ` Bakul Shah
2017-04-21  6:07         ` Steve Nickolas
2017-04-21 11:18       ` Clem cole
2017-04-21 13:20       ` Michael Kjörling
2017-04-18 20:56 ` Chet Ramey
2017-04-19 21:02 ` Sven Mascheck
2017-04-19 22:07   ` Steffen Nurpmeso [this message]
2017-04-20  0:31     ` shawn wilson
2017-04-20  0:35       ` shawn wilson
2017-04-20  3:50         ` Andy Kosela
2017-04-20  4:47           ` Warner Losh
2017-04-21  1:42             ` Nemo
2017-04-21 10:54               ` Ron Natalie
2017-04-21 14:22                 ` Andy Kosela
2017-04-21 14:45                   ` Ron Natalie
2017-04-22  2:46           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-04-20 16:39     ` Sven Mascheck
2017-04-20 21:42       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2017-04-19 19:18 Doug McIlroy
2017-04-21 17:03 Doug McIlroy
2017-04-21 18:15 ` Clem Cole
2017-04-21 19:13   ` Steve Johnson

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