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From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa)
Subject: [TUHS] Zilog Z80 Unix
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 08:34:09 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170420123409.BA37918C0B3@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> (raw)

    > From: "Erik E. Fair"

    > I have a memory of having seen a Zilog Z-80 .... based Unix, possibly v6
    > ... I recall asking the people in the booth how they managed without an
    > MMU, and don't recall their answer. I do remember thinking that since
    > Unix had "grown up" with MMUs to stomp on obvious pointer mistakes, the
    > software ought to be relatively well-behaved

I don't know about the Z80 part, but for the MMU aspect, recall that the first
couple of versions of PDP-11 Unix ran on a model (the -11/20) which didn't
have an MMU (although, as mentioned before here, it apparently did later use a
thing called a KS11, the specifications for which seem to be mostly lost).
Although recall the mention of calling out "a.out!", as to the hazards of
doing so...

And of course there was the 'Unix for an LSI-11' (LSX), although I gather that
was somewhat lobotomized, as the OS and application has to fit into 56KB
total.

So it was possible to 'sorta kind-of' do Unix without an MMU.

   Noel


             reply	other threads:[~2017-04-20 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-20 12:34 Noel Chiappa [this message]
2017-04-20 13:41 ` Mutiny 
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-04-20  1:42 Erik E. Fair
2017-04-20  2:54 ` Jason Stevens
2017-04-20  3:09 ` Bakul Shah
2017-04-20  3:40   ` Gregg Levine
2017-04-20  4:34     ` Bakul Shah
2017-04-20  4:50       ` Warner Losh
2017-04-20  7:03       ` Wesley Parish
2017-04-20  7:32         ` Wesley Parish
2017-04-20  4:32   ` Rik Schneider
2017-04-20 13:05 ` Clem Cole
2017-04-22 21:07   ` Dave Horsfall
2017-04-22 23:59     ` Clem cole
2017-04-23  0:01     ` Clem cole
2017-04-23  0:13     ` Larry McVoy
2017-04-24  0:04       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2017-04-24  0:40         ` Larry McVoy
2017-04-23  5:14   ` Wesley Parish
2017-04-23  5:14   ` Wesley Parish
2017-04-20 21:32 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-04-20 21:59   ` Larry McVoy
2017-04-20 22:33     ` Steve Nickolas
2017-04-20 23:28     ` Pete Turnbull
2017-04-20 23:19   ` Harald Arnesen
2017-04-21  0:03     ` Andy Kosela
2017-04-23 17:58 ` Michael Welle

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