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From: michael@kjorling.se (Michael Kjörling)
Subject: [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point
Date: Sat, 6 May 2017 13:44:55 +0000	[thread overview]
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On 6 May 2017 09:09 -0400, from cym224 at gmail.com (Nemo):
>> I would actually take that one step further: When you are writing
>> code, you are _first and foremost_ communicating with whatever human
>> will need to read or modify the code later.
> 
> ..., there are
> times when the code is transformed by optimization into something very
> difficult to read.  (We used noweb to document the transformation.)

True, optimized code can be difficult to read. But very little code
really _needs_ to be optimized to that level, and when you come across
it, you will generally know -- at least after running the application
through a profiler. (I have to admit we do have it easy these days.)

I've been working on optimizing some SQL code recently -- I know,
that's not exactly operating system kernel C or assembler -- and it's
amazing at times how the code can end up being both easier to
understand _as well as_ faster to execute, if you just put some
thought into what the code really needs to do. And not just minor
speedups either, but wallclock runtime reductions on the order of _two
to four nines_.

I think there's been only one time in the last several years when I
have really _needed_ to optimize code to the point that its workings
were not obvious.

-- 
Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • michael at kjorling.se
                 “People who think they know everything really annoy
                 those of us who know we don’t.” (Bjarne Stroustrup)


  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-06 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-05 15:20 [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point [was dmr note on BSD's sins] Clem Cole
2017-05-05 15:37 ` Bakul Shah
2017-05-06  2:16   ` Noel Hunt
2017-05-06  2:40     ` Toby Thain
2017-05-06  6:07     ` Bakul Shah
2017-05-06 22:11       ` Steve Johnson
2017-05-06 23:35         ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-07  4:06       ` Dan Cross
2017-05-07 13:49         ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06  2:02 ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point [was dmr note on BSD's sins] Doug McIlroy
2017-05-06  5:33   ` Steve Johnson
2017-05-06  9:18     ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06 13:09       ` Nemo
2017-05-06 13:44         ` Michael Kjörling [this message]
2017-05-06 14:40       ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-06 15:09         ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a Corey Lindsly
2017-05-06 15:20           ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06 15:24             ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-06 15:51               ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06 15:53                 ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-06 20:00             ` Steve Nickolas
2017-05-06 21:45               ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-07  7:42                 ` Stephen Kitt
2017-05-06 15:23           ` ron minnich
2017-05-06 15:44             ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06 18:43         ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point Dave Horsfall
2017-05-06 19:50           ` Bakul Shah
2017-05-07  1:15             ` Warner Losh
2017-05-07  1:42               ` Noel Hunt
2017-05-07 13:54                 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-07 14:58                   ` arnold
2017-05-07 16:33                     ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-07 15:13                 ` Warner Losh
2017-05-06 16:40       ` Kurt H Maier
2017-05-06 14:16     ` [TUHS] The Elements of Programming Style (book) - was Re: Discuss of style and design of computer programs Toby Thain
     [not found] <mailman.821.1494062349.3779.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-05-06 17:52 ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point David

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