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From: bakul@bitblocks.com (Bakul Shah)
Subject: [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point
Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 12:50:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170506195049.8FBEA124AEA4@mail.bitblocks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 07 May 2017 04:43:33 +1000." <alpine.BSF.2.20.1705070430400.11767@aneurin.horsfall.org>

On Sun, 07 May 2017 04:43:33 +1000 Dave Horsfall <dave at horsfall.org> wrote:
> 
> > I also made the point that "clever" sucks.  At least most of the time. 
> > All "clever" means is "hard to understand".  The brief joy one gets from 
> > clever code is stomped on by the frustration one gets from having to fix 
> > it.

> Apropos the above, I do confess to writing "clever code" from time to time 
> (PERL is a beautiful language for such sins)...
> 
> Of course, in the olden days it was the APL "one-liners" :-)

On the other hand, you have to grok only one line of code
instead reading pages of Java/C++ with surprises lurking
everywhere :-)

Since you need one line to do the work of many many lines of
c++/Java code, you should expect to spend more time on that
one line!

The same is true with shell one liners as well. We don't
(usually) consider constructs such as the following "clever"
because we expect its reader to have a certain level of code
literacy and context (or an ability to gain such).

tr -cs A-Za-z '\n' | tr A-Z a-z | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | sed ${1}q


  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-06 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-05 15:20 [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point [was dmr note on BSD's sins] Clem Cole
2017-05-05 15:37 ` Bakul Shah
2017-05-06  2:16   ` Noel Hunt
2017-05-06  2:40     ` Toby Thain
2017-05-06  6:07     ` Bakul Shah
2017-05-06 22:11       ` Steve Johnson
2017-05-06 23:35         ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-07  4:06       ` Dan Cross
2017-05-07 13:49         ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06  2:02 ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point [was dmr note on BSD's sins] Doug McIlroy
2017-05-06  5:33   ` Steve Johnson
2017-05-06  9:18     ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06 13:09       ` Nemo
2017-05-06 13:44         ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06 14:40       ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-06 15:09         ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a Corey Lindsly
2017-05-06 15:20           ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06 15:24             ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-06 15:51               ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06 15:53                 ` Larry McVoy
2017-05-06 20:00             ` Steve Nickolas
2017-05-06 21:45               ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-07  7:42                 ` Stephen Kitt
2017-05-06 15:23           ` ron minnich
2017-05-06 15:44             ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-06 18:43         ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point Dave Horsfall
2017-05-06 19:50           ` Bakul Shah [this message]
2017-05-07  1:15             ` Warner Losh
2017-05-07  1:42               ` Noel Hunt
2017-05-07 13:54                 ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-07 14:58                   ` arnold
2017-05-07 16:33                     ` Michael Kjörling
2017-05-07 15:13                 ` Warner Losh
2017-05-06 16:40       ` Kurt H Maier
2017-05-06 14:16     ` [TUHS] The Elements of Programming Style (book) - was Re: Discuss of style and design of computer programs Toby Thain
     [not found] <mailman.821.1494062349.3779.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2017-05-06 17:52 ` [TUHS] Discuss of style and design of computer programs from a user stand point David

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