From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: jon@fourwinds.com (Jon Steinhart) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 16:22:27 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] X and NeWS history (long) In-Reply-To: <20170912225851.GG7819@mcvoy.com> References: <201709111649.v8BGnGTx005812@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20170911230910.GH7819@mcvoy.com> <201709120738.v8C7ckOF007026@freefriends.org> <201709121535.v8CFZOuB015695@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <201709122211.v8CMB3pf029787@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20170912225851.GG7819@mcvoy.com> Message-ID: <201709122322.v8CNMRUu011489@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Larry McVoy writes: > > The rest of your story is great, just one small correction. SunView started > as something Sun specific but it pretty quickly became a library on top of > X11. I'm not sure if it ever worked on X10, I think it did but I'm not sure. > > Source: I've hacked up GUI interfaces for the SCM I did at Sun in Sunview. > This would have been around 1990, is that still X10 or X11? Well, just to nitpick, I remember that much of SunView was a library but it relied on special device drivers with complicated ioctls and such. I don't recall that it be easily separated from the OS. BTW, on a historically amusing note, I still have two old Sun machines in the basement, a SparcStation 20 and an Ultra-60. The 20 has whatever graphics card supported double-buffering. It has a modified kernel thanks to some unnamed (and unremembered at this point) soul who provided source code. I hacked it so that SunView ran in one of the buffers and X ran in the other. Moving the mouse off of the edge of the screen switched which buffer was displayed. My answer to being able to run both SunView and X. > I sure did, love to meet you some time, where are you? I live in Oregon, about 50 miles southwest of Portland. I will probably be in San Francisco the first full weekend of October for the Hardly Strictly Bluegrass Festival if you're in the bay area. Will be staying at Sun employee #5's house. Jon