From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tytso@mit.edu (Theodore Ts'o) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:35:35 -0400 Subject: [TUHS] Happy birthday, Dennis Ritchie! In-Reply-To: <20170914193905.GD25914@wopr> References: <201709100944.v8A9iPeb024293@freefriends.org> <20170914161121.sx7eqzsqklzcncdb@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> <20170914193905.GD25914@wopr> Message-ID: <20170914213535.4ptpo7jtaem6x5tf@thunk.org> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:39:05PM -0700, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:15:32PM -0400, Steve Nickolas wrote: > > > > Isn't that pretty much just Lennart Poettering and his fan club? > > > > It's right there in the name "GNU" as well. There's a whole generation > of computer people out here for whom bash and gawk are fossilized in > their substrata, and they get mad when someone suggests maybe other > tools exist. The use of "GNU" as in "GNU/Linux" is something that was pushed by Stallman and the Free Software Foundation, and actively abosed, or mostly ignored by the majority of the Linux community. See [1] if you want more details on that whole mess. Of the distributions, I believe only Debian has adopted the use of GNU/Linux in their official documentation, but it's not used by most Debian users or developers from my experience. I'll also note that Debian has pushed to use /bin/dash, as their default /bin/sh, and not /bin/bash, to try to make Debian's shell scripts to be more portable. (And for speed reasons, since dash is faster than bash). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy - Ted