From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: khm@sciops.net (Kurt H Maier) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 20:00:06 -0700 Subject: [TUHS] really Pottering vs UNIX In-Reply-To: References: <880AF6DC-A8C8-49C3-B874-A0879406BBDD@bitblocks.com> Message-ID: <20170915030006.GB50485@wopr> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 09:24:44PM -0400, Dan Cross wrote: > > I think a better system than putting us into this rigid hierarchy system is > to think of programming as somewhat analogous to writing; it requires > proofreading and good editing. Some authors are better than others; > practice helps a lot, writers workshops can help, seeking out advise and > mentorship from more accomplished writers similarly, etc. It's a good thing real engineers don't put themselves on these pedestals. We wouldn't have any bridges left. I'm glad NCEES is making efforts to formalize 'software engineer' as a class of PE; maybe in another hundred years or so I'll be able to believe promises that programmers make. khm