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From: grog@lemis.com (Greg 'groggy' Lehey)
Subject: [TUHS] Who is running their own mail server and what do you run?
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:54:08 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170920225408.GR42338@eureka.lemis.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfqzRWGEyj2cFYz5_sH8OW=OdjbSh=7Tb1Li9S4gJjv_9w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wednesday, 20 September 2017 at 10:46:19 -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
>
> I ran my own server for bsdimp.com and village.org form the early
> 90s until 2009 or so.

I've been running my own server since 1992, first sendmail, then
postfix.  And yes, the only issue is spam.

> I switched to gmail when I was seriously looking at dropping $10k
> for a server that had enough horse power to filter the 50k-75k spam
> I was getting a month at that time.

My issue with spam filtering wasn't horsepower, which was only a
fraction of what you mention, but accuracy.  Spam was continually
getting through, legitimate messages were being marked as spam.  None
of the conventional methods, such as header analysis, were accurate
enough, and they required continual tweaking.  In addition, it seems
that Spamassassin passed its use-by date some years back.  See
http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-jan2010.php#D1-10 : on 1 January 2010
I received a bounce with the message:

 3.2 FH_DATE_PAST_20XX      The date is grossly in the future.

That was fixed, of course, but it remained a pain.

> Switching to google was easier and I didn't have to spend the $10k
> nor the 4 hours a week on the care and feeding of the black lists,
> etc.

I felt very embarrassed, but I did something similar.  I now use gmail
as a spam filter, while retaining my own mail server.  Clearly
maintaining spam filtering is enough work that it should be left to
people who do it for a job.  But at least my headers show that the
mail comes from a lemis.com mail server.

Greg
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-20 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-20 16:25 Larry McVoy
2017-09-20 16:39 ` Jon Steinhart
2017-09-20 19:59   ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-20 21:26     ` Jon Steinhart
2017-09-20 23:17     ` Robert Brockway
2017-09-21  0:00       ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-21  0:08         ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21  0:55           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-21  1:52             ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21  4:14               ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-21  5:30                 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21 15:43                   ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-21  0:38         ` Robert Brockway
2017-09-21  1:30         ` Lawrence Stewart
2017-09-21  1:57           ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21  3:04             ` Robert Brockway
2017-09-21  5:20               ` Grant Taylor
     [not found]       ` <20170921042528.E12C5156E523@mail.bitblocks.com>
2017-09-21  4:45         ` Robert Brockway
2017-09-21  4:58           ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-21  5:34             ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-21 15:49               ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-20 16:46 ` Warner Losh
2017-09-20 17:01   ` Steve Nickolas
2017-09-20 17:39   ` Henry Bent
2017-09-20 22:54   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey [this message]
2017-09-20 16:59 ` Kurt H Maier
2017-09-20 17:10 ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 17:14   ` Jon Steinhart
2017-09-20 18:15   ` Arthur Krewat
2017-09-20 23:45     ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-20 22:54   ` Steve Simon
2017-09-20 23:31     ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 23:57     ` Bakul Shah
2017-09-21  0:02       ` Larry McVoy
2017-09-21  1:08     ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-21 12:36       ` Steve Simon
2017-09-20 17:47 ` Clem Cole
2017-09-20 17:54 ` Rico Pajarola
2017-09-20 17:57 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-20 18:22   ` William Pechter
2017-09-20 19:11     ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 19:25     ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-09-20 19:54       ` William Pechter
2017-09-20 19:09   ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 23:26   ` Michael Parson
2017-09-20 18:21 ` Grant Taylor
2017-09-20 18:51 ` Corey Lindsly
2017-09-20 20:13 ` jason-tuhs
2017-09-20 22:25   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-09-20 23:06 ` Dave Horsfall
2017-09-21 12:40 ` Ben Greenfield
2017-09-23  9:12 ` Dario Niedermann
2017-09-21 20:05 Norman Wilson
2017-09-21 21:02 ` Grant Taylor

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