From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: jon@fourwinds.com (Jon Steinhart) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2017 11:28:21 -0800 Subject: [TUHS] Harvard and Von Neumann Architectures and Unix In-Reply-To: <6b6fd55e-d1f9-5ee2-42ac-309d6b2923b3@gmail.com> References: <6b6fd55e-d1f9-5ee2-42ac-309d6b2923b3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <201711241928.vAOJSLcF008672@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Will Senn writes: > I am curious about how the Harvard Architecture relates to Unix, > historically. If the Harvard Architecture is predicated on the > separation of code from data in order to prevent self-modifying code (my > interpretation), then it would seem to me to be somewhat at odds with a > Unix philosophy of extreme abstraction (code, data, it's all 0's and > 1's, after all). In my naive understanding, the PDP-11 itself, with the > Unibus and apparently agnostic ISA seem to summarily reject the Harvard > Architecure... > > My question is - was there tension around Harvard and Von Neumann > architectures in Unix circles and if so, how was it resolved? > > Thanks, > > Will I don't know how to answer this question directly but in my opinion the distinction between von Neumann and Harvard architecture machines became moot with the introduction of memory management units. For all intents and purposes instructions were separate from data from the PDP 11/70 on. Jon