From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: tytso@mit.edu (Theodore Ts'o) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 11:45:57 -0500 Subject: [TUHS] OT: critical Intel design flaw In-Reply-To: References: <20180103134358.3F16818C098@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <20180103234025.GA23371@thunk.org> Message-ID: <20180104164557.GI23371@thunk.org> On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 09:03:09AM -0500, Clem Cole wrote: > ​You need to add >>and that he knew about and had access<<. > > The truth is there was and it had networking and X windows already. Bill > Jolitz had completed the original 386 BSD port (and actually started to > publish about it in DDJ). How real was it in June 1991, when he demo'ed it in Usenix Anaheim? Was it at the level of a "MIT Media Lab demo", or was it actually something that could be used in anger? The official history states that 386 BSD version 0.0 was released in March 1992, and the "much more usable" 0.1 version was released in July 1992. The biggest problem with Jolitz's work seems to have been more social than anything else. The writeups from that era seem to indicate that the Jolitz's wanted to keep a much tighter control over things, and this discouraged collaboration and contributions, which led to the first of *BSD fragmentation/spin-offs, starting with FreeBSD and NetBSD. Contrast that to Linus, where I started playing with Linux in September 1991 (Linux 0.09), and in three months he accepted fairly major patches from me to implement all of the new syscalls and changes needed to implement POSIX Job Control and POSIX termios (Linux 0.12). The Linux developers were not spending time fighting over who would get commit bits; we were having fun writing code. - Ted