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From: tytso@mit.edu (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: [TUHS] Why BSD didn't catch on more, and Linux did
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 15:26:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180207202654.GF29650@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEoi9W6Cuky93zLoU1sSQvHWWC6KTEGt3BEUnnf+Gzcvg05pQw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 07, 2018 at 02:53:10PM -0500, Dan Cross wrote:
> 
> Yes: AT&T's legal argument was bad. Isn't that why they lost the lawsuit?
> :-D
>

AT&T's legal argument was against BSDI and UCB.  People
misunderstanding the difference between Patent law and Trade Secret
Law into thinking that we were all contaminated and Unix was Doomed
(tm), wasn't, as far as I know, part of AT&T's lawsuit.

In the Alice/Bob/Charlie example I gave, the lawsuit was "Alice can
sue Bob for gazillions".  The assumption that Alice could then sue
Charlie who learned about the "trade secret" in a Usenix ATC paper is
a fear that others had, and wasn't part of the Alice versus Bob
lawsuit.

And *that's* why it was so important that MIT's Unix license didn't
have the trade secret clause.

						- Ted


  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-07 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-06 22:13 Dan Stromberg
2018-02-06 22:38 ` Clem Cole
2018-02-06 22:44 ` Warner Losh
2018-02-06 22:59   ` Pete Wright
2018-02-06 22:59 ` Derek Fawcus
2018-02-07  1:14   ` Dave Horsfall
2018-02-06 23:02 ` Theodore Ts'o
2018-02-07  0:22   ` Andy Kosela
2018-02-07  1:02     ` Robert Brockway
2018-02-07  3:47       ` George Michaelson
2018-02-07  1:29   ` Clem Cole
2018-02-07 15:13     ` Theodore Ts'o
2018-02-07 16:59       ` Jon Forrest
2018-02-07 17:27       ` Clem Cole
2018-02-07 19:21         ` Dan Cross
2018-02-07 21:24           ` Clem Cole
2018-02-07 19:31         ` Nemo
2018-02-07 19:49         ` Theodore Ts'o
2018-02-07 19:53           ` Dan Cross
2018-02-07 20:26             ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2018-02-07 21:06               ` Clem Cole
2018-02-07 21:31               ` Clem Cole
2018-02-07 17:52       ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
2018-02-07  8:04   ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo
2018-02-07  8:51   ` Arrigo Triulzi
2018-02-07  8:27 ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-07  8:39   ` emanuel stiebler
2018-02-07 10:44     ` Arrigo Triulzi
2018-02-07 13:14   ` Chet Ramey
2018-02-07 14:42   ` Nemo
2018-02-09  2:53     ` Wesley Parish
2018-02-11 20:22       ` Derek Fawcus
2018-02-12  0:31         ` Robert Brockway

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